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Old 08-02-2008, 07:45 PM
 
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Didn't you read the post by "barbj" about how her ancestors of old were given "free Land" I would say that qualifies as "government assistance"
And guess what? TIMES HAVE CHANGED. Subsequent immigrants were not "given land." We don't NEED more people to "fill the frontier" and serve as a buffer for Indians or whatever the purpose was of the Homestead Act.


Plus, they were given land and nothing else, and their being on said land did not burden the social welfare state.
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
 
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"Trimt7', the difference is that you don't own the United States. You live here just like many other people live here and we pay taxes too and some of us don't mind helping somebody out. If someone comes to your house uninvited it is your house "only", and you as an individual owner of that house can refuse. If you come to my house in need of help and I can help you, I will help you until you are able to get on your feet
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:01 PM
 
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"trimt7", I know you are not telling me that you don't see the purpose of the "Homestead Act". These people became productive citizens of the United States and helped build this country. And you are right, time have changed. Now instead of giving them "free land", we give them "free education", "free health care", etc. They too can become productive citizens of the United States. Immigrants are not "burdening our social welfare", its the war in Iraq, do you know how much money is being spent on that war? and your crying about Illegal immigrants
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:50 PM
 
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"Trimt7', the difference is that you don't own the United States. You live here just like many other people live here and we pay taxes too and some of us don't mind helping somebody out. If someone comes to your house uninvited it is your house "only", and you as an individual owner of that house can refuse. If you come to my house in need of help and I can help you, I will help you until you are able to get on your feet

Sorry, but if you and I were "roommates," and you tried to house the homeless while I was paying just as much rent as you, you can be damn sure I'd have a problem with that.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:53 PM
 
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"trimt7", I know you are not telling me that you don't see the purpose of the "Homestead Act". These people became productive citizens of the United States and helped build this country. And you are right, time have changed. Now instead of giving them "free land", we give them "free education", "free health care", etc. They too can become productive citizens of the United States. Immigrants are not "burdening our social welfare", its the war in Iraq, do you know how much money is being spent on that war? and your crying about Illegal immigrants


Again, enough with your "assumptions" -- you don't know me. Money spent on Iraq IS atrocious. As is spending money on illegal immigrants when we have more than enough of our own to take care of.

Tell you what....how about we STOP paying for illegal immigration, and YOU can start a private foundation to help illegal immigrants?

Because you see, we HAVE a process for immigration and for those that want to come here and be productive members of society. We can't let EVERYONE in that wants to, and if you can't understand the kind of resource and land degredation that would lead to (an "open borders policy" that you seem to espouse), then I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:20 PM
 
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"trimt7" I am just messing with you. But seriously, you need to calm down, step away from that computer and enjoy your life. These immigrants are gonna come here regardless, because their countries are really poor. Perhaps if the U.S would stop oppressing their countries then they can rebuild, and there wont be a need for them to come here.

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Old 08-03-2008, 08:29 AM
 
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"trimt7", I know you are not telling me that you don't see the purpose of the "Homestead Act". These people became productive citizens of the United States and helped build this country. And you are right, time have changed. Now instead of giving them "free land", we give them "free education", "free health care", etc. They too can become productive citizens of the United States. Immigrants are not "burdening our social welfare", its the war in Iraq, do you know how much money is being spent on that war? and your crying about Illegal immigrants
My friend your statements and positions remind me of a "lemming tree".
Or, Mr. Spelling bee did I spell that wrong also?
In a word you are "boring".

Have a great blessed day,
j
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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whenever you guys get a chance do some traveling, go out and see the world. Get away from that computer and get a life. I bet you guys sit at your computers thinking that your opinions will have an effect on the issue. America is made up of immigrants and immigrants will continue to come here illegally wether you like it or not. The army is full of chlidren of immigrants over in Iraq fighting for the U.S. and you are sitting comfortably at your desks talking **** about immigrants. GET A LIFE!
Get a life?? How old are you, 12? America is made up of 'native born' citizens, not immigrants. You really should crack a book once in a while.
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:47 AM
 
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Get a life?? How old are you, 12? America is made up of 'native born' citizens, not immigrants. You really should crack a book once in a while.


I think this person may very well be 12. Or as typical, a son or daughter of an illegal immigrant.

This particular person doesn't seem to grasp the difference between IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. I love immigrants. LEGAL ones.

If they can't make it over that hurdle, however, it's pointless to engage.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:10 AM
 
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LOL @ the hypocrite yockels who view the United States of America as "their land"...
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