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Old 08-04-2008, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Have you read through this thread?
Many are bitter about the illegals and the drain they put upon the taxpayer. I tend to detest their total disregard of our right to enforce/ control immigration as we see fit. They dont want to wait in line so they sneak in. They get here and hurt legals by lowballing the wages. Many don't contribute by way of paying taxes. Many also commit a host of other crimes.
I hate the employers of illegals more than anything. By employers I do mean everyone from corporations who do it all way down to Joe to cheap to pay going rate on getting his grass cut.
I don't hate illegals. I don't blame them for everything. I do blame them for the laws they both willingly and knowingly break. I do blame them for their complete disregard of those who are hurt by their practices.
Above all I hate the politicians who pander to them in fear of loosing some votes.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:52 PM
 
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Many are bitter about the illegals and the drain they put upon the taxpayer. I tend to detest their total disregard of our right to enforce/ control immigration as we see fit. They dont want to wait in line so they sneak in. They get here and hurt legals by lowballing the wages. Many don't contribute by way of paying taxes. Many also commit a host of other crimes.
I hate the employers of illegals more than anything. By employers I do mean everyone from corporations who do it all way down to Joe to cheap to pay going rate on getting his grass cut.
I don't hate illegals. I don't blame them for everything. I do blame them for the laws they both willingly and knowingly break. I do blame them for their complete disregard of those who are hurt by their practices.
Above all I hate the politicians who pander to them in fear of loosing some votes.
You are one of the more reasonable anti illegal posters on here.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Have you read through this thread?
Yes, I read the thread; and I believe the consensus is that illegals are a 'factor' in the budget deficit, albeit not the ‘sole’ cause.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Many are bitter about the illegals and the drain they put upon the taxpayer. I tend to detest their total disregard of our right to enforce/ control immigration as we see fit. They dont want to wait in line so they sneak in. They get here and hurt legals by lowballing the wages. Many don't contribute by way of paying taxes. Many also commit a host of other crimes.
I hate the employers of illegals more than anything. By employers I do mean everyone from corporations who do it all way down to Joe to cheap to pay going rate on getting his grass cut.
I don't hate illegals. I don't blame them for everything. I do blame them for the laws they both willingly and knowingly break. I do blame them for their complete disregard of those who are hurt by their practices.
Above all I hate the politicians who pander to them in fear of loosing some votes.
Agreed. A major misconception among the pro-illegal crowd (or deliberate spin), is that those opposing illegal immigration “hate” illegal aliens, and “excuse” those who employ them. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don’t know how many times we must state that we don’t hate illegals -- we hate what illegals have done to our country. There is a HUGE difference.

I consider the employers of illegals to be toxic putrid pond scum. They are the most iniquitous of all involved; followed by the flagrant malfeasance of our so-called elected representatives, and our appointed chief puppets at the helm of our government agencies.

Without their collaborative efforts, there would be no job magnet, and we would have very little illegal immigration. Of course, every illegal in this country is not here for work. Some are here to give birth to anchor babies to reap the benefits; some are here to commit crimes and gangbang; while others are simply here.

As macmeal stated the other day…..business owners and CEO’s are invisible. For the most part, we don’t know them, and we don’t see them. They are tantamount to the drug kingpins; and the illegal aliens are the small-time dealers. We see the dealers on street corners in crime-ridden neighborhoods. They are the ones killing each other over money and turf, and wreaking havoc in our communities. It is also the low-level drug dealer who is visible to the police; whereas the kingpins are shielded by their money and power.

IMO, every elected official complicit in this invasion should be arrested and tried for treason. Without their pandering and greed, corporations could not employ illegals with impunity. Every employer of illegals should be severely fined, and receive the maximum sentence to be served among the general population in a maximum security institution. No country club settings, and no conjugal visits, with the exception of Big Bubba, et al. They should also be required to replace illegal aliens working in agriculture, and be subjected to the same working conditions.

No, we don’t hate illegal aliens; but they are the fuel that runs the illegal immigration engine. They are deserving of our contempt, as are those in power who facilitate their illegal activity and the destruction of our country. Their supporters are equally vile.
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:41 AM
 
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Things are heating up - I've seen it for the last few years, since I've been following the illegal immigration "debate" for maybe 10 years. 10 years ago, there were very few people/organizations talking about it. Now, it's everywhere!

It might get ugly, indeed.
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Things are heating up - I've seen it for the last few years, since I've been following the illegal immigration "debate" for maybe 10 years. 10 years ago, there were very few people/organizations talking about it. Now, it's everywhere!

It might get ugly, indeed.
The (dwindling numbers of) illegals here in Arizona are petrified I sense...........maybe their collective terror will 'encourage' the remainder to leave-------------permanently!
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