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Old 08-05-2008, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Earth
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How the hell did you get that?

And "being locked up by pharmacies" isn't going to keep that off the street. If anything, you'd have that stuff flowing all over the black market. Pharmacies being broken into.

The question was, imagine an America with its drug supply suddenly cut off.
I was talking about the cartels being destroyed, not opening the border.
The supply wouldn't be cut off for very long. For one thing, Mexico is only the 3rd largest producer of hard drugs in the world. Colombia and Afghanistan have it beat. Not to mention that the Chinese Triads are already here (and have been for decades) and would be willing, ready, and able to step in if the Mexican cartels were destroyed.

 
Old 08-06-2008, 12:13 AM
 
Location: California
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The supply wouldn't be cut off for very long. For one thing, Mexico is only the 3rd largest producer of hard drugs in the world. Colombia and Afghanistan have it beat. Not to mention that the Chinese Triads are already here (and have been for decades) and would be willing, ready, and able to step in if the Mexican cartels were destroyed.
I don't see why the Triads wouldn't start brining their drugs through the less enforced northern border (Canada), capitalizing from the defeat of the Mexican cartels.

America has a huge market for drugs. Somebody's going to get rich off that.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 08:04 AM
 
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To quote "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," I don't think I'll stay, this is a very silly place.

A far more realistic scenario for conjecture of hypotheticals would be if the Hispanic population of the U.S. in the Southwest followed the pattern that the Confederate South did and declared themselves separate from the Union for irreconcilable differences, such as currently stated preferences for porous borders with Mexico, all communication exclusively in the spanish language, and governmental laws more in accord with Catholic Church teachings. Quebecois-like autonomy would not be what those who renounce American sovereignty overall would settle for: even now, La Raza is more strident than that compromise.

Whadiya think, OP and others?
Thanks for your comments, majoun. There is no law that can't be undone by the wrong-headedness of politicians, especially if it is rescinded incrementally. I.e., FDA oversees Federal standards for food sanitation, yet Los Angeles passed a law which in effect allows illegal food vending of uninspected, non-preserved foods from carts by tweaking the enforcement codes here in L.A.

I very much see Los Angeles headed in direction counter to the interests of the Union. What if became a juggernaut state-wide?
 
Old 08-06-2008, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Thanks for your comments, majoun. There is no law that can't be undone by the wrong-headedness of politicians, especially if it is rescinded incrementally. I.e., FDA oversees Federal standards for food sanitation, yet Los Angeles passed a law which in effect allows illegal food vending of uninspected, non-preserved foods from carts by tweaking the enforcement codes here in L.A.

I very much see Los Angeles headed in direction counter to the interests of the Union. What if became a juggernaut state-wide?
Again; IMHO, when the people of California turn against illegal immigration-----------it will be sudden and very ugly.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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To quote "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," I don't think I'll stay, this is a very silly place.

A far more realistic scenario for conjecture of hypotheticals would be if the Hispanic population of the U.S. in the Southwest followed the pattern that the Confederate South did and declared themselves separate from the Union for irreconcilable differences, such as currently stated preferences for porous borders with Mexico, all communication exclusively in the spanish language, and governmental laws more in accord with Catholic Church teachings. Quebecois-like autonomy would not be what those who renounce American sovereignty overall would settle for: even now, La Raza is more strident than that compromise.

Whadiya think, OP and others?
Ah - ha - however, they would lose their U.S. government benefits!! I doubt they want that.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 02:20 PM
 
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If we just annexed Mexico, we'd get a lot of our manufacturing capability and jobs back.
We'd have a poorer state than Mississippi in that case - lots of mouths to feed. I think we have enough already.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Denver
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This is really really really a silly, silly silly thread................
We are not going to war , a real time shoot em up war, with Old Mexico..

This is an absolute waste of time, and thought.........geezzeeeeeeeeeeee
I think that is my point. However, If it is so silly then why do we have so many people screaming: "THIS IS WAR!". Warmongering is silly.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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No matter how it happens,or what the outcome, Mexicans and some of our own people will hold it against us,
 
Old 08-06-2008, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Pot kettle black------------the first Hispanics came here 'illegally' as well in 1492.
There were no "immigration Laws" at that time. in fact The USA wasn't even a country then.
 
Old 08-06-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Again; IMHO, when the people of California turn against illegal immigration-----------it will be sudden and very ugly.
And they still have my support as a US Citizen and a member of MDCD.
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