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Old 08-05-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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This is not about Michigan Per-Se, but it effects Michigan. IMHO. I don't think you'de have that witch of a Governor if our US Laws were enforced.
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August 4th 2008



In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presiden*tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen*sus Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan and Sometimes Orange County CA
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In California it is encouraged. They are not allowed to ask you for any form of Identification when you go to vote. You just tell them your name and address. In some areas they find dead people voting, people who do nto exist, people who moved away long ago. etc.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:46 AM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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In California it is encouraged. They are not allowed to ask you for any form of Identification when you go to vote. You just tell them your name and address. In some areas they find dead people voting, people who do nto exist, people who moved away long ago. etc.




HOW I can not believe that they do not ask for a I.D. how does the state of CA. prove that all the voters are who they say they are? it just seems if you have that many people voting you would have to show prove that they are legal and if the stae could not prove it the that election would be void because they have no prove of who had the right top vote!!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Posted by Coldjensens:
In California it is encouraged. They are not allowed to ask you for any form of Identification when you go to vote. You just tell them your name and address. In some areas they find dead people voting, people who do nto exist, people who moved away long ago. etc.

HOW I can not believe that they do not ask for a I.D. how does the state of CA. prove that all the voters are who they say they are? it just seems if you have that many people voting you would have to show prove that they are legal and if the stae could not prove it the that election would be void because they have no prove of who had the right top vote!!
This is HOW!

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Voter ID requirements pose a substantial hardship for some citizens. Voter ID requirements will have a disproportionate and unfair impact on low-income, racial and ethnic minority voters, senior citizens, voters with disabilities and others who do not have a photo ID, nor the money or ability to acquire one.
American Civil Liberties Union : ACLU Urges Senate to Oppose Voter ID Amendment to Immigration Reform Bill
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Posted by Coldjensens:
In California it is encouraged. They are not allowed to ask you for any form of Identification when you go to vote. You just tell them your name and address. In some areas they find dead people voting, people who do nto exist, people who moved away long ago. etc.




HOW I can not believe that they do not ask for a I.D. how does the state of CA. prove that all the voters are who they say they are? it just seems if you have that many people voting you would have to show prove that they are legal and if the stae could not prove it the that election would be void because they have no prove of who had the right top vote!!
It's true. I lived in CA, over 35yrs.
When and if they were ask they're nationality they scream "Discrimination"!. Even though they legally have no right's here in this country.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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I wonder which Party would favor Illegal's being able to vote hmmm....
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I wonder which Party would favor Illegal's being able to vote hmmm....
Who ever benifited the most.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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I have always had to show my I.D. to vote.
If it cost to much why not just implant that people can get a free I.d. card to vote with if they have proof of who they are and where they live? I mean if they can not afford a I.D. then that means they get stuff like foodstamps and they should have prove there I.d., are if they work they have I.D. so when they say I do not have a I.d. because I can not afford one will lets run there name in social number in give them one free if it comes back good but to just let someone walk in in vote with no prove of who they are should be illegal and void!!!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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I have always had to show my I.D. to vote.
If it cost to much why not just implant that people can get a free I.d. card to vote with if they have proof of who they are and where they live? I mean if they can not afford a I.D. then that means they get stuff like foodstamps and they should have prove there I.d., are if they work they have I.D. so when they say I do not have a I.d. because I can not afford one will lets run there name in social number in give them one free if it comes back good but to just let someone walk in in vote with no prove of who they are should be illegal and void!!!
It is really not the cost-they use that as an excuse. Here in NH whenever someone tries to make it where you have to show ID to vote- it gets shot down. The last attempt it was even in the bill that it would be subsized for those who "cannot afford it". It still did not pass because once they put it in the bill to subsidize it-they came up with other excuses not to pass it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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The biggest problem was with the states that allowed Illegals to have a Drivers License. With a DL no Voting Registration was ask for.
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