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Old 08-08-2008, 04:34 PM
 
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You know, I rarely speak out and say that people on here are anti-Hispanic or anti-Mexican. I understand that the issue to most people is that of illegal immigration and that it is just consequential that Latinos are disproportionately represented in this group. However, this thread is a very sad one in the immigration forum's history because it has CLEAR anti-Hispanic rhetoric. You people talking about Hispanics as if they are poor, drop out, baby producing imbaciles are a disgrace to the American people.
The LaRaza blurring of the lines is so cliche', please give it a rest.
No we talk about illegal aliens that fit your description to a tee. While the truth hurts, the numbers don't lie.


Apparently, you the Washington Post and LaRaza are on the same page though:

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Hispanic growth fueled by higher fertility rates
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Friday, May 9th 2008, 10:20 AM
WASHINGTON — Hispanic women born in the United States are more likely to have children out of wedlock than women who are immigrant Hispanics or non-Hispanics, according to an analysis released by Pew Hispanic Center Thursday.
[b]Hispanic women generally, both U.S.-born and immigrants, have higher fertility rates than non Hispanics — 84 births per 1,000 Hispanic women compared with 63 per 1,000 non-Hispanic women.

The differences can also be found between Hispanic women born in this country — 73 births per 1,000 women — and immigrant Hispanic women — 96 per 1,000 women.

Hispanics are now 15.1 percent of the U.S. population, according to Census data released last week.
Their numbers are growing more because of births than immigration.



One-in-four children under 5 years old in the U.S. is Hispanic, the Census Bureau reported.
These numbers are likely to fuel growth of the Hispanic population in this country.
One of the more surprising findings in the Pew study was the difference in out-of-wedlock births when comparing Hispanic women born in this country and Hispanic women who are immigrants.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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LMFAO. I am being cliché? I actually have a multi-faceted approach to this issue and am not clearly "anti-illegal" or "pro-illegal." I dare each and every one of you to search my post history and reproduce something that I have said that even remotely suggests that I buy into the ideas of LaRaza! In fact, I routinely criticize LaRaza AND people from the "pro-illegal" camp who suggest that "anti-illegal" equals "racist." I'm not as one-sided as some of you think I am...
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:42 PM
 
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LMFAO. I am being cliché? I actually have a multi-faceted approach to this issue and am not clearly "anti-illegal" or "pro-illegal." I dare each and every one of you to search my post history and reproduce something that I have said that even remotely suggests that I buy into the ideas of LaRaza! In fact, I routinely criticize LaRaza AND people from the "pro-illegal" camp who suggest that "anti-illegal" equals "racist." I'm not as one-sided as some of you think I am...
Nobody said you bought into anything, however, you are guilty of the cliche of blurring the lines and lumping all HISPANICS together in your accusatory statement of those of us against illegal immigration.

That being said, please note the statistical data I posted that confirms what we have said with regard to the over zealous birth rates of illegal aliens in comparison to hispanics who are citizens in this country.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:45 PM
 
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Hispanics are intentionaly out breeding all non Hispanic Americans into minority status and taking over America. Canada will be next in line.
CLEAR example of anti-Hispanic rhetoric.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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CLEAR example of anti-Hispanic rhetoric.
Then address that individual.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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Then address that individual.
I believe we (those in favor of enforcing the laws of sovereign nation) have been accused of all being the same poster, because our views align so perfectly and we know ITA means. That may be part of the confusion.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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bluebeard if they weren't speaking Spanish and not dropping out of school - both of which cause chaos for the citizen students, most people would probably not care as much
Could easily be interpreted as anti-Mexican or anti-Hispanic (because this is in reference to "the children of illegal immigrants" who are raised in this country and attending American schools)
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:50 PM
 
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I believe we (those in favor of enforcing the laws of sovereign nation) have been accused of all being the same poster, because our views align so perfectly and we know ITA means. That may be part of the confusion.
No you haven't. Re-read my post.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:51 PM
 
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Could easily be interpreted as anti-Mexican or anti-Hispanic (because this is in reference to "the children of illegal immigrants" who are raised in this country and attending American schools)
Especially if someone has a manic predeliction for that sort of interpretation.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:52 PM
 
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Can be interpreted as anti-Hispanic, and so can Benicar's support of this article. I UNDERSTAND that Benicar is usually not anti-Hispanic; but rather, anti-illegal immigration, but with all due respect Benicar, you are really walking a dangerous line when endorsing anti-Hispanic rhetoric like this.
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