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Old 08-08-2008, 06:53 AM
 
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A Chinese immigrant who stabbed, gutted and beheaded a fellow passenger on a bus traveling across Canada last week also cannibalized the victim and pocketed his nose, lips and ear, a court heard Tuesday.

Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton faces a second-degree murder charge in the horrific case.

The victim has been identified by friends as Tim McLean, a young man of 22 years who was returning home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in Edmonton in Western Canada.

In his second court appearance, Li was overheard saying “please kill me.”

Prosecutors said police observed him eating pieces of his victim when they surrounded the bus on a desolate highway about 90 kilometers (55 miles) west of Winnipeg immediately following the July 30 attack.

Li had decapitated the victim, sliced off an ear and bits of flesh and was taunting police and bystanders with the head, refusing to leave the bus and screaming “I have to stay on the bus forever,” the Crown said….

After a three-hour standoff, Li tossed a knife and scissors out of a broken window of the bus, jumped out and was subdued by police, the court heard.

In his pants pocket, police found several body parts hacked from the victim’s face, said Dalmyn….

People who knew Li said the accused had showed signs of mental health troubles in the years leading up to the attack, but refused help.

His estranged wife told police he’d once been hospitalized for four days for strange behavior, the court heard.

Li did not speak in court. He nodded yes when asked by the judge if he understood the seriousness of the charge and shook his head no when asked if he wanted a lawyer.

“He doesn’t seem to want to engage in any discourse,” his interim defense lawyer Randy Janis told AFP after meeting with Li to try to convince him to accept legal counsel.

“His few responses are non-verbal, there’s very little eye contact. Occasionally, he’ll nod or shake his head to answer,” he said, describing Li as withdrawn.

The judge ordered a psychiatric evaluation of the accused before his next scheduled court appearance on September 8.

Chinese immigrant in bus beheading dined on victim: prosecutors, August 5, 2008: Chinese immigrant in bus beheading dined on victim - Yahoo! Canada News (broken link)

VDARE.com: Blog Articles » Worst Fears Confirmed in Vince Weiguang Li Beheading Case

Yet we have groups supporting aliens demanding that they be granted citizenship before the FBI completes their background check.

In light of the fact that the majority of them are from 3rd world cultures, I have no doubt that this insanity will be repeated in the US.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:10 AM
 
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This is shameless exploitation of a horrible event for your anti-illegal agenda.
This was a very disturbed person, and a tragic incident, and you post it just because the person is an immigrant(legal or illegal, it doesn't say)?
And then you bold the most gruesome parts for no apparent reason other than the fact that they are gory.

Try to keep it on topic, yeah? You spend all day googling "immigrant" "illegal" and/or "mexican", and I'm sure you find plenty. Stop posting stories that involve immigration issues in the most indirect of ways, like this one.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:20 AM
 
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Even the best, well executed background checks can miss mental disorders. NASA has had a few space cowboys go bad.
The FBI has had more than a few agents turn out corrupt and even dangerous
The CIA? Well they do hire a few wacko's so its expected that they will have some agents go rogue.
In the case of this Chinese immigrant who knows what happened to him to make him what he is.
As for ensuring back ground checks are completed on all potential immigrants? Absolutely correct. Its not 100% perfect but it will definetly weed out proven criminals from the selection process.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:46 AM
 
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This is shameless exploitation of a horrible event for your anti-illegal agenda.
This was a very disturbed person, and a tragic incident, and you post it just because the person is an immigrant(legal or illegal, it doesn't say)?
And then you bold the most gruesome parts for no apparent reason other than the fact that they are gory.

Try to keep it on topic, yeah? You spend all day googling "immigrant" "illegal" and/or "mexican", and I'm sure you find plenty. Stop posting stories that involve immigration issues in the most indirect of ways, like this one.
Hellooooooo, This is the IMMIGRATION thread and this is related news. I don't make this stuff up, I'm just the messenger.

What's wrong does the truth hurt your feelings? Tough. Whatever I do all day is NONE YA. The last time I looked I was free, black and over 21, you ARE NOT A MODERATOR and I am definitely not your child, therefore, you have no jurisdiction over me or what I post.

Here's some advice: Perhaps you should stop reading them? Hope that helps.

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Old 08-08-2008, 07:48 AM
 
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Even the best, well executed background checks can miss mental disorders. NASA has had a few space cowboys go bad.
The FBI has had more than a few agents turn out corrupt and even dangerous
The CIA? Well they do hire a few wacko's so its expected that they will have some agents go rogue.
In the case of this Chinese immigrant who knows what happened to him to make him what he is.
As for ensuring back ground checks are completed on all potential immigrants? Absolutely correct. Its not 100% perfect but it will definetly weed out proven criminals from the selection process.
Well stated and ITA.
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:11 AM
 
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Even the best, well executed background checks can miss mental disorders. NASA has had a few space cowboys go bad.
The FBI has had more than a few agents turn out corrupt and even dangerous
The CIA? Well they do hire a few wacko's so its expected that they will have some agents go rogue.
In the case of this Chinese immigrant who knows what happened to him to make him what he is.
As for ensuring back ground checks are completed on all potential immigrants? Absolutely correct. Its not 100% perfect but it will definetly weed out proven criminals from the selection process.

They could miss some but they seem to miss a whole lot when it comes to immigration background checks.

A very large number of killers are immigrants - legal or illegal. Often times these people are fleeing justice in their own countries. They're shunned or on the move exactly because they are insane or criminal and we just make it very easy for them to come here.
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:14 AM
 
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They could miss some but they seem to miss a whole lot when it comes to immigration background checks.

A very large number of killers are immigrants - legal or illegal. Often times these people are fleeing justice in their own countries. They're shunned or on the move exactly because they are insane or criminal and we just make it very easy for them to come here.
Especially when they cave into the demands of so called "immigrants rights groups" who seem to think they have the right to dictate policy.
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:19 AM
 
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Especially when they cave into the demands of so called "immigrants rights groups" who seem to think they have the right to dictate policy.
It's also bad for the immigrant but more importantly for us when they bring in so many people who cannot adapt to our way of life.

Because of the cheap labor advocates, they're bringing in the most impoverished, the most illiterate, unskilled immigrants who will have a very difficult time here. Their USA born children will have a very difficult time here competing with children whose parents can speak English and can read and write.

Immigration should be about allowing in people who wish to be American (or Canadian in this case), who have the ability to learn the language and who can adapt.
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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This is shameless exploitation of a horrible event for your anti-illegal agenda.
This was a very disturbed person, and a tragic incident, and you post it just because the person is an immigrant(legal or illegal, it doesn't say)?
And then you bold the most gruesome parts for no apparent reason other than the fact that they are gory.

Try to keep it on topic, yeah? You spend all day googling "immigrant" "illegal" and/or "mexican", and I'm sure you find plenty. Stop posting stories that involve immigration issues in the most indirect of ways, like this one.
Immigration laws should be about protecting the citizens of a country from not only job loss and third world living conditions, they should protect the citizens by keeping out the diseased and criminally insane.

This -- just like the case in Newark NJ, where immigrants machete-hacked four innocent students in their own neighborhood, or the case of the insane Russian immigrant who killed Bill Cosby's son, and countless other cases where the citizens are being preyed upon by immigrants.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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It's also bad for the immigrant but more importantly for us when they bring in so many people who cannot adapt to our way of life.

Because of the cheap labor advocates, they're bringing in the most impoverished, the most illiterate, unskilled immigrants who will have a very difficult time here. Their USA born children will have a very difficult time here competing with children whose parents can speak English and can read and write.

Immigration should be about allowing in people who wish to be American (or Canadian in this case), who have the ability to learn the language and who can adapt.
ITA. Just wanted to add: if we go back to the original intent for legal immigration, there would be a tremendous reduction in the masses of uneducated, impoverished, over zealously breeding burdens we have in this country today.
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