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View Poll Results: Which choice best describes you?
latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 4 4.71%
latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 14 16.47%
NON-latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 9 10.59%
NON-latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 58 68.24%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-28-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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Our cities are much, much sparser than cities in Europe. Huge numbers of people could be added without paving ANY farmland.
No they are not - but have you noticed that the people of Europe are not having huge numbers of kids?

It's not up to Mexicans to decide how crowded our cities must be -- or let's hope not -- take a look at Mexico City sometime, it's miles and miles of slums and it's pollution. Is that what we should want for our cities? Is that why your trying to bring in unlimited numbers of third world overly fertile types?
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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You're not worried about how many babies WE have. You're worried about how many babies THEY have. And you're only worried about it if THEY have them HERE. By George I think you've got it! If they stay over there, you suddenly don't care anymore. Darn that's a great Idea!!!
That's right! Because they don't belong here. Stay away!!!

They (whoever they are) can do what they want in their country.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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No they are not -
Uh, yes, they are.



Most US cities are more like Houston, density wise. San Francisco and NYC are outliers due to the geography.

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but have you noticed that the people of Europe are not having huge numbers of kids?
Cool? That doesn't change the fact that their cities are much more compact and have way less suburban sprawl.

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It's not up to Mexicans to decide how crowded our cities must be -- or let's hope not -- take a look at Mexico City sometime, it's miles and miles of slums and it's pollution. Is that what we should want for our cities? Is that why your trying to bring in unlimited numbers of third world overly fertile types?
Yeah, that's a false dichotomy.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Uh, yes, they are.



Most US cities are more like Houston, density wise. San Francisco and NYC are outliers due to the geography.



Cool? That doesn't change the fact that their cities are much more compact and have way less suburban sprawl.



Yeah, that's a false dichotomy.
Also let's not forget that with NAFTA and China-trade, there are only a few handful of jobs being created. All those billions of people you want to pack into Texas -- much of which lacks water and it not inhabitable -- do not have jobs in order to support their huge families.

Even Americans are having trouble finding jobs -- yet you want to bring the whole world to live here? Don't you find your thinking a little absurd?
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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Also let's not forget that with NAFTA and China-trade, there are only a few handful of jobs being created. All those billions of people you want to pack into Texas -- much of which lacks water and it not inhabitable -- do not have jobs in order to support their huge families.
What? I'm not suggesting that "billions be packed into texas." That's an illustration of various density rates. It's not a suggestion that people be forcibly relocated to a particular location.

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Even Americans are having trouble finding jobs -- yet you want to bring the whole world to live here? Don't you find your thinking a little absurd?
Again, I'm not suggesting that anyone "bring" anyone anywhere. That does indeed sound absurd.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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That's right! Because they don't belong here. Stay away!!!

They (whoever they are) can do what they want in their country.
Yep an your right. I dont have the cojones to go TO Mexico and demand the same things an my one nana WAS Mexican.
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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What? I'm not suggesting that "billions be packed into texas." That's an illustration of various density rates. It's not a suggestion that people be forcibly relocated to a particular location.



Again, I'm not suggesting that anyone "bring" anyone anywhere. That does indeed sound absurd.
No, you just believe we should allow illegal aliens to remain. And, welcome all who would like to cross our “imaginary line” we call our border. Right?
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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No, you just believe we should allow illegal aliens to remain. And, welcome all who would like to cross our “imaginary line” we call our border. Right?
I don't care if you welcome them or not. Regardless, yes, freedom of movement is a lot different than "importing people" or "bringing them in." This is the same sloppy language that lets people come up with ridiculous thoughts such as saying that someone that wants all human beings treated equally wants to put Mexicans ahead of Americans.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Mexican = citizen of Mexico

American or US citizen = citizen of the USA.

Mexicans therefore have their rights in Mexico. And the US citizens have rights in the USA but not full rights in Mexico.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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Mexican = citizen of Mexico

American or US citizen = citizen of the USA.

Mexicans therefore have their rights in Mexico. And the US citizens have rights in the USA but not full rights in Mexico.

Like which rights don't we get in Mexico that they get here?
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