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View Poll Results: Which choice best describes you?
latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 4 4.71%
latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 14 16.47%
NON-latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 9 10.59%
NON-latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 58 68.24%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-27-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I am for amnesty for anyone who serves in the military and completes their service honorably.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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So you think the right to work and your right to win a lottery are somehow comparable?
I am saying that none have the right to disregard the law because they didnt get what they want. I am saying that want does not equal the right.
By the way illegals dont have the right to work here and I do have a right to win the lottery if I buy a ticket.
Before you say it.
If no stores sell the tickets where I live? Then its a non-issue.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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I am saying that none have the right to disregard the law because they didnt get what they want. I am saying that want does not equal the right.
By the way illegals dont have the right to work here and I do have a right to win the lottery if I buy a ticket.
Before you say it.
If no stores sell the tickets where I live? Then its a non-issue.
Yeah and we're like actually talking about creating a path to immigrate here for unskilled people. A legal path. They would be legal. Saying they are here illegally isn't a valid response.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm against illegal aliens being here 100%. As such, I think if it was flipped and the Canadians were the ones mostly coming into the U.S. illegally than Latin Americans most Americans wouldn't care. The threads for this category in City Data, Illegal Immigration, would be less than 10% of whats here now.

-Cheers.
And, I think if most illegals were Haitian, we would NEVER have reached the 1 million mark, let alone 12-30 million.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yeah and we're like actually talking about creating a path to immigrate here for unskilled people. A legal path. They would be legal. Saying they are here illegally isn't a valid response.
It is absolutely valid. Ignoring a law in hopes that it will be changed still makes one a criminal that disregarded the law.
A legal path exists for all who are qualified. We produce a bumper crop of unskilled citizens why do we need more?
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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And, I think if most illegals were Haitian, we would NEVER have reached the 1 million mark, let alone 12-30 million.
I do believe you are right.

And notice how quiet La Raza groups are when Haitian boat people are rounded up in now-hispanic Miami.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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It is absolutely valid. Ignoring a law in hopes that it will be changed still makes one a criminal that disregarded the law.
A legal path exists for all who are qualified. We produce a bumper crop of unskilled citizens why do we need more?

The ones that haven't came yet haven't done a thing. Amnesty and reformation of current law are two different discussions.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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It is absolutely valid. Ignoring a law in hopes that it will be changed still makes one a criminal that disregarded the law.
A legal path exists for all who are qualified. We produce a bumper crop of unskilled citizens why do we need more?
The H2A visa does not require any real job skills. And there are no caps on it.

Many legal immigrants are not especially skilled but with the very high cost of living in the USA, it's only natural that we expect to have immigrants with enough skills to be self-supporting and even with enough to pay some real taxes.

Sad as it is -- people with no education, no job skills, no ability to ever learn English or adapt to American ways simply cannot find jobs that pay them enough to live on, and buy health insurance and send their kids to college.

People who can't make it back in their own countries with very low costs of living, and nationalized health care, and even tuitionless colleges cannot make it on their own here in the USA.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I do believe you are right.

And notice how quiet La Raza groups are when Haitian boat people are rounded up in now-hispanic Miami.
Yep. Not a peep. In addition, despite the current conditions in Haiti, the U.S. is returning Haitians, while choosing to allow Hispanic “non-criminal” illegals to remain. Talk about a double standard.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Someone that would speed, would probably run stop signs, ignore crosswalks and endanger pedestrians and other unsafe things that actually endanger people are a-ok though.
If you gave these people a legal option to come here they would not commit any of the above crimes.
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--i think you've got it
We have enough people and many Americans who cant find jobs. If the USA needs more people; WE will decide who to let in or NOT. Not Mexico, Germany, Nigeria, etc.
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