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View Poll Results: Which choice best describes you?
latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 4 4.71%
latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 14 16.47%
NON-latino/hispanic, and FOR illegal immigrants/amnesty 9 10.59%
NON-latino/hispanic, and AGAINST illegal immigration/amnesty 58 68.24%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-28-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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Legal???? Who said anything about their legal immigration system? So you do believe Americans must abide by the rules in Mexico but not the reverse?
This is one of the bigger goalpost shifts in recent memory. Just stop wasting my time. You asked whether you could go into Mexico and do XYZ. You can do it LEGALLY with ease. I noted that - when you can easily operate legally, that's part of the issue. Then like 10 posts later, this bull****.

The whole point I was making - overtly making, might I add - was that you can do exactly what you claimed you couldn't.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Acting like an authority, lol. I haven't made claims beyond what I know, I specifically said that my knowledge doesn't carry to property ownership.

But FWIW, for example, Benicar is straight up incorrect. I have a friend who is a non-citizen and owns property in Mexico. There may well be limits, but there is absolutely no categorical ban.
FWIW, yes, a foreigner may own a house, condo, timeshare, etc, but not LAND. Again, the laws may have changed, but when my ex-husband and I were interested in purchasing land, we were told only Mexican citizens have that privilege. Of course, it could have been a case of discrimination, given my interracial marriage at the time. But, thatís right, only U.S. citizens would stoop to that level.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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Man, this "take any job they please" business sounds pretty sweet. I'm gonna pretend to be Mexican and take the Cowboys quarterback job. That is going to awesome. In the off season I'll take one of those astronaut jobs.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:15 PM
 
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FWIW, yes, a foreigner may own a house, condo, timeshare, etc, but not LAND. Again, the laws may have changed, but when my ex-husband and I were interested in purchasing land, we were told only Mexican citizens have that privilege. Of course, it could have been a case of discrimination, given my interracial marriage at the time. But, thatís right, only U.S. citizens would stoop to that level.
Kinda sounds like someone was lying to you.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Man, this "take any job they please" business sounds pretty sweet. I'm gonna pretend to be Mexican and take the Cowboys quarterback job. That is going to awesome. In the off season I'll take one of those astronaut jobs.
Then you could see goalposts and Uranus.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Kinda sounds like someone was lying to you.
Agreed...
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Kinda sounds like someone was lying to you.
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Until 1993, it was not possible for foreigners to hold title to land in Mexico that was 100 kilometers from a border, or 50 kilometers from either coast. This was, and indeed, still is, prohibited by the Mexican Constitution.

In 1993, then, the Foreign Investment Law was passed whereby foreigners may purchase land in restricted zones provided the deed is held in trust by a trustee.

It is through the use of this trust arrangement that compliance with the Mexican Constitution can be maintained: technically you, as a foreigner, do not hold your deed. Instead, it is held in trust for you by a trustee.
The ABC's of Land Ownership in Coastal Mexico
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:03 PM
 
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This is one of the bigger goalpost shifts in recent memory. Just stop wasting my time. You asked whether you could go into Mexico and do XYZ. You can do it LEGALLY with ease. I noted that - when you can easily operate legally, that's part of the issue. Then like 10 posts later, this bull****.

The whole point I was making - overtly making, might I add - was that you can do exactly what you claimed you couldn't.
The FM3 visa is not EASY, and certainly isn't easy for most Americans to get. It's actually much easier for educated skilled immigrants to get work visas to the USA than to Mexico. The USA has many more LEGAL immigrants than any other nation on earth -- that's how very easy it is to come to the USA.

Actually someone from Mexico or anywhere with my education and job skills would have an extremely easy time immigrating LEGALLY here. Easier than the reverse.

Now explain how easy it would be for Americans with no education, no job skills, no money to immigrate to another country including Mexico. (Hint- it's not)
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...Now explain how easy it would be for Americans with no education, no job skills, no money to immigrate to another country including Mexico. (Hint- it's not)
The same way as two-thirds of immigrants to the United States - Being related to a citizen...

You might respond that it matters for money, at least for the immigration fees, but the U.S. has those requirements too...
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:15 PM
 
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The same way as two-thirds of immigrants to the United States - Being related to a citizen...

You might respond that it matters for money, at least for the immigration fees, but the U.S. has those requirements too...
Tell that to whoever it was that I was explaining this to -- he is claiming that it is very easy for Americans without special skills to take jobs in Mexico. I'm explaining it isn because Mexico has immigration laws and gives it's own citizens preference in jobs.

Just like skilled and educated immigrants have an easy time immigrating here, especially since we take in so many more every year than other nations do, and you're right that marriage is an easy way to legally immigrate to Mexico but not necessarily take jobs, those poor Americans without job skills and educations are not going to be able to easily get the FM3 visas.

It's not so different, all nations have immigration laws of some kind, most have laws much more restrictive than ours.
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