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He and two friends came from Kazakhstan last summer, a year shy of finishing college, to make some money and see the place they had dreamed of since childhood.
The dream turned sour in April when they were arrested for shoplifting. They have spent the last four-plus months in jail, ensnared by a pair of slow-moving bureaucracies -- immigration enforcement and the court system -- with no end in sight.
And yet Mr. Davletov still cherishes the opportunity America provides and wants to return to get his master's degree. If he's deported, that won't be an option.
"This was a great experience," he said. "Ninety percent of the people here were nice to us. The government was not."
American citizens likely would have been released that day and told to appear in court. Instead, the three students were taken to the county jail, their $10,000 bail well beyond their means.
That first sentence is implying something false.
Even if was a $10 item, there will still be a bail issue, and if you couldn't make bail, you'd be sitting in jail waiting for a court appearance . . ask any American who has been caught shop-lifting. Also, it wasn't a $10 item pocketed in some act of cleptomania, their theft was just shy of $1000. They were using wire cutters, like they "accidently" stole something?
. . the men's J-1 visas set to expire in September
. . the three decided to stay another year, applying for extensions on their visas. Though they had expired visas, the three were still in the United States legally as long as their extension applications were pending.
. . They recently had received a request for more information regarding their visa extensions -- meaning they were still here legally -- but the deadline to respond passed while the students sat in jail.
So they couldn't respond to their Visa extensions because they were in jail, therefore, they became "illegal aliens" because of their criminal activity.
Is that the point of this article?
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"They don't care about me," Mr. Davletov said. "I could be in here six months, a year, two years. It doesn't matter, because I'm from Kazakhstan."
This is false. Actually, the charges will be dropped, probably with the August 20th trial, so ICE can deport them with an adjucation. The Police Department's opinion is if they remain in America, the charges will "not" be dropped.
Since this is being tried in the media, here's what I think as a juror :
Even if the Visa extention questions were filled out (waiving they had expired because they were in jail), whether they would be allowed to remain here is probably a moot point because of their criminal activity.
If they remain in the country, The Police Department (justice) would rightly pursue charges against them, placing the economic burden upon us. The Police Department (justice) doesn't have to drop the charges. It's doing so, that ICE can deport them, and that's called "a favor". It's also common sense, because once serving the prison time, they will be deported anyway. They should be grateful no criminal charges are being filed against them.
Deport.
Y'know what's really annoying? The slanted bias we have to weed through with the media to get at the facts.
Y'know what's really annoying? The ****ing **** we have to weed through with the media to get at the facts.
How true! The MSM doesn't want the truth to be told. There is always a "sob" spin to stories involving illegal aliens. They try their best to portray illegals as “victims” of our unfair immigration policies. The fact that these guys are common criminals is totally irrelevant. Rather, we must focus on the injustices being perpetrated against them. It’s pure BS.
How true! The MSM doesn't want the truth to be told. There is always a "sob" spin to stories involving illegal aliens. They try their best to portray illegals as “victims” of our unfair immigration policies. The fact that these guys are common criminals is totally irrelevant. Rather, we must focus on the injustices being perpetrated against them. It’s pure BS.
ITA. Doesn't change the fact that they deliberately overstayed their visas and added insult to injury by shoplifting on top of it. The MSM is starting to sound like a few of the IA huggers on this board, or is it the other way around?
I wonder if any of the latino pro-illegal 'regulars' will post a single comment coming to the defense of Kazakh illegal criminals and how we are vilifying every person of Kazakh heritage with our "hate" agenda.....
I wonder if any of the latino pro-illegal 'regulars' will post a single comment coming to the defense of Kazakh illegal criminals and how we are vilifying every person of Kazakh heritage with our "hate" agenda.....
I hear crickets in the future.....
Hrmm don't see any "Kazakhs are a threat to our society" threads.
Also don't see any threads demeaning the Kazakh culture saying they have a dirty/drunkenness or in this case "shoplifting" cell embedded in them.
If I did see those type of threads, I would definitely speak up.
The MSM is starting to sound like a few of the IA huggers on this board, or is it the other way around?
Hand in hand, but it's difficult to say which one is the egg. I think the media took the propagandist side of illegal aliens from the outset, and you can see this with their lengthy arguments "they help our economy". Bunk!
It's little consolation, but I recognize people are brainwashed. With the sheer quantity of propaganda the media is spewing, I have no qualms in saying we are living in the times of Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russian. If you're not infected by this plague, you "hear" people regurgitating mantras, when you try to reason with them, like they are the religious blind.
By my own tally a few years ago, based on the states who put forth their numbers, "illegal aliens" cost us $250,000,000,000.00 per year. That other thread supports my thinking with this estimate, stating "all" immigration cost us $350 billion per year. Today, I can only see that number going higher for the cost of illegal aliens, but regardless, some of the damage they've done to our economy is already done. So where was the media reporting on that? Where are they now? Arguing semantics.
The last time I read Time Magazine was when it ran it's propaganda with a cover : "Why Amnesty Makes Sense". Time Magazine voted "Reverend Luis Cortes" as one of the 25 most influential evangelicals in America. What does the Reverend Luis Cortes say, "I'm voting brown".
If there were 10 million of them in the US illegally, you would.
Excellent point...short, sweet, and true. IF there was a Kazakh version of MEChA, and IF a number politicians were 'kow-towing' to Kazakh groups in order to 'appease' them, and IF anyone having a problem with MILLIONS of unassimilated Kazakhs in American society was forced to constantly defend himself against charges of racism, then you can BET that there would be significant anti-Kazakh sentiment evident throughout American society....not the least of which would be expressed by many pro-illegals, distressed by these 'new' illegals (Kazakhs), because "THAT'S not the kind of illegals we meant, when said we defended them"....I can easily see it now.
Bottom line? Kazakhs are NOT seen as a threat to our society, because there aren't enough of them IN our society to 'threaten' it. Has nothing to do with racism or 'anti'-anything...it has to do with numbers, with assimilation, and with geography.
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