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Old 08-16-2008, 09:31 AM
 
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There will be amnesty wait and see. It will be a great day for the America's combine them all into one
Must be Miss Cleo.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:31 AM
 
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Default Amnesty is a bad idea...

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There will be amnesty wait and see. It will be a great day for the America's combine them all into one
Amnesty would result in only more legal and illegal immigration. Have you seen the numbers?

At current rates the U.S. will add another 135 million people. If immigration were accelerated there could be another 350 million people giving the U.S. a population of close to 700 million by 2050.

Does anyone really want that?
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:31 AM
 
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I saw that senile Alan Greenspan say that more immigrants is the solution to the housing crisis. Let more in, they buy up more homes.

This is the solution from the clueless guy responsible for the current crisis.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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I guess with such overpopulation on the planet, we can't expect NOT to be invaded by third-world countries.

If we had stopped population growth all over the world years ago, we wouldn't have this problem. Thanks to the Catholic church, and abstinance education, and people who breed when they should not be breeding (like if they can't afford children), no access to birth control in some areas, etc.

It's a damned shame what we've done by overpopulating the planet.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:37 AM
 
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I guess with such overpopulation on the planet, we can't expect NOT to be invaded by third-world countries.

If we had stopped population growth all over the world years ago, we wouldn't have this problem. Thanks to the Catholic church, and abstinance education, and people who breed when they should not be breeding (like if they can't afford children), no access to birth control in some areas, etc.

It's a damned shame what we've done by overpopulating the planet.



I agree.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:53 AM
 
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I wonder why we don't hear much about this from environmental groups. Yes, we should all recycle and be concerned about our carbon footprints etc...but by adding 100+million people to the country......

Emmigration is great, and we built our country on it. However, it is past time to resurrect the quotas of the past and only allow in those that will add to the nation -- and not many of them at that.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:10 AM
 
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I wonder why we don't hear much about this from environmental groups. Yes, we should all recycle and be concerned about our carbon footprints etc...but by adding 100+million people to the country......

Emmigration is great, and we built our country on it. However, it is past time to resurrect the quotas of the past and only allow in those that will add to the nation -- and not many of them at that.
We don't hear it because a lot of the big pro-environmental groups are very left and anti-American. Please don't misread- I know there are right wingers for illegals too- I am just addressing the environmental groups with this post.

A few years back- a board member on the Sierra Club had a very logical anti-illegal stance. His stance was that this illegal invasion was a big harm to the environement. Not only causing overpopulation and a huge taxing on natural resources but all the overbuilding, pollution etc. Not to mention the tons of garbage along the US-Mexican border. Or the wildlife who are either being eaten by illegals or whose habitat is being destroyed. All very logical and accurate points. He was kicked off of the board for his "radical" views.

The "creator" of Earth Day back in the 1970's warned us all of overpopulation back then. He stated that overpopulation was one of the biggest factors in the detriment to our environment. However-those who "celebrate" earth day seldom bring that up today.

Just look at Al Gore and the whole global warming issue. How often is overpopulation discussed?. Do they ever view securing our borders or cracking down on world population as a solution?

I am not saying all environmental groups are like this. Some are not and do realize that overpopulation is a huge strain on our environment. I happen to belong to the NH Forest society and they take overpopulation very seriously. They are not political-both republicans and democrats have won their "Forrestor of the Year" award. NH is growing fast-a lot of open space being built up and they take very seriously the fact that overpopulation plays a huge role in how our environment is affected.

Nicolem
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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I saw that senile Alan Greenspan say that more immigrants is the solution to the housing crisis. Let more in, they buy up more homes.

This is the solution from the clueless guy responsible for the current crisis.
“If we open up our borders….we could supress wages of middle class jobs” - Alan Greenspan

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NoSlaves.com (http://blog.noslaves.com/alan-greenspan-recommends-wiping-out-the-middle-class/ - broken link)
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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We don't hear it because a lot of the big pro-environmental groups are very left and anti-American. Please don't misread- I know there are right wingers for illegals too- I am just addressing the environmental groups with this post.

A few years back- a board member on the Sierra Club had a very logical anti-illegal stance. His stance was that this illegal invasion was a big harm to the environement. Not only causing overpopulation and a huge taxing on natural resources but all the overbuilding, pollution etc. Not to mention the tons of garbage along the US-Mexican border. Or the wildlife who are either being eaten by illegals or whose habitat is being destroyed. All very logical and accurate points. He was kicked off of the board for his "radical" views.

The "creator" of Earth Day back in the 1970's warned us all of overpopulation back then. He stated that overpopulation was one of the biggest factors in the detriment to our environment. However-those who "celebrate" earth day seldom bring that up today.

Just look at Al Gore and the whole global warming issue. How often is overpopulation discussed?. Do they ever view securing our borders or cracking down on world population as a solution?

I am not saying all environmental groups are like this. Some are not and do realize that overpopulation is a huge strain on our environment. I happen to belong to the NH Forest society and they take overpopulation very seriously. They are not political-both republicans and democrats have won their "Forrestor of the Year" award. NH is growing fast-a lot of open space being built up and they take very seriously the fact that overpopulation plays a huge role in how our environment is affected.

Nicolem
I guess since we're a rich country, we're expected to take in anybody else who lives somewhere that is not so great, particularly Mexico (although they ARE rich). We're supposed to feel guilty about having what we have, and we have to share it, even though the people we bring in just rip us off and hate us, besides.

It's not PC to assure that our quality of life needs to be preserved for the future. That would sound like we aren't guilty, and we're actually thinking of ourselves and this beautiful country. America is supposed to think of everyone else, and pay for everyone else, too.
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Old 08-27-2008, 06:44 AM
 
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Angry The Cost of Immigration

Congress has not told their American citizens the cost of having illegal immigrants in this country. And of course, we cannot blame them. After you read these facts and figures, you'd be ashamed too.
Welfare: $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
Food assistance: $2.2 billion dollars a year are spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Social services: Add social services to welfare and food assistance and American taxpayers are spending $90 billion dollars a year are spent on illegal aliens.
Medicaid: $2.5 billion dollars a year are spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Lost wages: Americans lose $200 billion dollars a year in suppressed wages caused by illegal aliens.
The list goes on and on, but the ending numbers are this: Illegal immigrants cost the average U.S. taxpayer, that is you and I, $338.3 BILLION dollars a year. What else could be done with this money? No easy answers to the question of what to do, but something must be done now.
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