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Old 08-17-2008, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Good response. Ethnic identity is up to the particular person in question. Anyone can ethnically identify with anything they want. I have no problem with someone who is 7/8 white and 1/8 Amerindian identifying as "Mexican-American" or "mestizo;" I just have a problem when that person distances himself from "white people" as if he is significantly racially different from them. I have a problem when such a person holds himself out to the world as being more racially similar to an Amerindian than to a European. Ethnicity is up to you, but race is not. Anyone with half a brain knows that you didn't walk out of the jungle in Chiapas if you are - and look - 7/8 white. I know a person who fits this description whose racial identity was beaten down pretty quickely in college by all the well-off white/whitish Hispanics from Latin America and Miami/suburban NYC. This person is now a dear friend of mine and understands well the difference between race and ethnicity. Honestly, I think he is more comfortable in his own skin nowadays than he ever was in San Antonio while surrounded by fairly white-looking Mexican-Americans who loved to proclaim their "brown" roots even among real Mexicans immigrants who had no idea why they would stress such a thing. We talked about this about 6 months ago and although he is a proud of his Latin American heritage and culture, he no longer goes around portraying himself as different from "white people" because his racial heritage most closely matched that of that same group. He will explain that he is part Amerindian but knows how silly it is to tell people that he's "Mexican" or "brown" in a racial context. He now has no problems with the fact that he is racially more white than brown and that this detracts absolutely NOTHING from has ethnic identity. It is really sad that some of his Texas buddies think that being "Mexican" is a racial identify and not an ethnic one. This is precisely why lots of people on this forum believe that there is a race-based argument in favor of illegal immigration: there really are a lot of Mexican-American out there who push the equivocated idea that this is about race when it is so clearly not.
Our Kele is that same way: she is 1/8 Apache Indian despite her being a blue eyed blonde---------too; she is proud of and claims all of her heritage
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:17 AM
 
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What? I seriously don't believe that for a minute. The U.S. is a White country. Everyone in my town, etc, is a white person. The government is White. How the heck could whites become a minority race in their own country? That wouldn't make sense. Surely that link is a fake?
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Mexifornia (for now)
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Obviously, 17271 needs to conduct some research and socialize more often before assuming that everyone is white or that the US is a "white country". Have you paid any attention to the US Census' demographical statistics?

Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:37 AM
 
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What? I seriously don't believe that for a minute. The U.S. is a White country. Everyone in my town, etc, is a white person. The government is White. How the heck could whites become a minority race in their own country? That wouldn't make sense. Surely that link is a fake?
It could happen IF we let illegal immigration from Mexico continue in this out-of-control way.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:42 AM
 
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I don't see this as a big deal......as long as we all still identify ourselves as Americans with English being the dominant language.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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I don't see this as a big deal......as long as we all still identify ourselves as Americans with English being the dominant language.
That's the problem - we have people who are loyal to other countries (especially Mexico), and people who refuse to learn English.
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