Tucson becomes Sanctuary City (website, illegals, Afghanistan, Mexicans)

[Alanboy395]

I want to see in five years what becomes of these sanctuary cities like Tucson, Hartford, and Alexandria, VA (i already dont like what i'm seeing here.) When they have education problems, higher crime (already happening in Alexandria), and crunched budgets they will be an example of what will happen to a sanctuary city.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Alanboy395

I want to see in five years what becomes of these sanctuary cities like Tucson, Hartford, and Alexandria, VA (i already dont like what i'm seeing here.) When they have education problems, higher crime (already happening in Alexandria), and crunched budgets they will be an example of what will happen to a sanctuary city.

Tuscon is already there...........basically, if you are an American you do not count----------especially a blue collar tradesman.

I honestly suspect I could make the same if not more $$$ in Charleston, W Va. Plus; $150K house in Tuscon would cost about $50-60K in the former city. Charleston winters are worse but factoring the much lower cost of living, virtually no illegals as well as far fewer people-----------that city is looking better and better by the day.

[Luiso]

Originally Posted by r601020

I'm researching The Patriot Act . . these sanctuary city or safe harbor ordinances might be void under Federal Law.

The Patriot Act
. . all law enforcement and intelligence officers as determined by regulation to be responsible for investigation or identification of aliens admitted to the United States pursuant to a visa.

also,

Conspiracy to, or, aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a Federal Crime.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode08/usc_sup_01_8_10_12_20_II_30_VIII.html

Example problem : Municipality passes an ordinance, i.e., its residents no longer have to pay taxes. What is the opinion of the Federal Government via the IRS regarding not paying taxes?

You can see another problem that these people are trying to have it both ways. How can the Federal Government give funding to any State if it's not in compliance with Federal Law?

So do you just want to talk, or do something? Get the actual verbiage of the ordinance(s) in Tuscon. And we'll figure it out together if there's a violation of Federal Law, including The Patriot Act.

Not to mention, getting an opinion on this from the Governor of Arizona, might be in order.

I'm not a lawyer, just trying to figure this stuff out, but these safe harbor and sanctuary city ordinances sound like a stretch of the imagination, i.e., power percieved is power achieved. The individual, believing it's possible for them to do this, in fact, empowers them to do it.

My faith is pretty low at the moment.

What I hear is :
*) excuses for not upholding their oath of service.
*) endorsing criminal activity by acquience.

So called "illegals" have rights deal with it-
YouTube - TheMexicaMovement's Channel

[r601020]

Originally Posted by Achury

So called "illegals" have rights deal with it-
YouTube - TheMexicaMovement's Channel

The correct English spelling is "so-called".

Refuted, they are not "so-called" illegals if they are aliens in the country illegally.

Tell you what, why don't you go look up all the rights illegal aliens have, and I'll keep doing what I'm doing. But for what it's worth, I am dealing with.

I'm learning how to arrest illegal aliens.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Achury

So called "illegals" have rights deal with it-
YouTube - TheMexicaMovement's Channel

You are correct: illegals have the same rights as any other lawbreakers...........

[r601020]

Researching . .

US Code Title 8
Chapter 12 Subchapter II Part IX
Aliens and Nationality
§ 1373. Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service
US CODE: Title 8,1373. Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.

US Code Title 8 Chapter 14 Subchapter IV
§ 1644. Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service
US CODE: Title 8,1644. Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

[amc760]

The hammer is falling!

[amc760]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

You are too funny for words.

We may wind up owning Nuevo Leon, etc. very soon.

Mexico is weak and pathetic. Till it grows up; no one will take it seriously.

In your opinion.
American and other overseas corporations take Mexico seriously enough.

[sassyone]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Tucson; and I am being polite here, basically does not like Americans it seems-----------at least those of us whose jobs can be replaced by people from SOB (preferably illegally).

Darn those backstabbing Americans, but just maybe tuson will come to the rescue and realize that not all the illegals are bad people, I was trying to be polite as you bear.

[bluskyz]

I wonder why the fed. law hasn't been enforced. Does G. Wrong's sister-in-law have a say in this nightmare?