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Old 08-16-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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Judge: ‘English-only’ policy didn’t create ‘hostile environment’

BY RON SYLVESTER

The Wichita Eagle

U.S. District Judge J. Thomas Marten ruled today against three Hispanic families who had claimed a Catholic school policy discriminated against their children.
Marten said this afternoon the Catholic Diocese of Wichita’s policy requiring students to speak only English while at school did not rise to the level of a "hostile educational environment."
The lawsuit sought an end to the English-only policy, which Marten denied.
The judge called the policy’s implementation "one-sided" but said there weren’t enough instances of it being applied to have hampered the learning environment at St. Anne Catholic School.
"This is a sad day for everyone," Marten said. "There's not a single person who ought to feel good that we are in here dealing with these issues.
"If anyone thinks they're going to walk out of here thinking they won anything, they don't understand this case or either side of the issues."
He chastised the families and school and diocese leaders for bringing the case to court, saying both sides could have worked together to find a better solution.


Judge: ‘English-only’ policy didn’t create ‘hostile environment’ | Kansas.com (broken link)


This is great news for America and Americans! It's long past time to legally make English our National Language.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:09 AM
 
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The judge was wrong either we are a melting pot or we are not
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:14 AM
 
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The judge was wrong either we are a melting pot or we are not
Those who can't give up their Mexican culture and language ought to move back home to Mexico. It's that simple.

Other immigrants don't resist learning our common language. Mexicans would prefer a life of welfare handouts or lettuce picking jobs, while immigrants from countries like India or China will quickly learn English and be self reliant.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:21 AM
 
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Those who can't give up their Mexican culture and language ought to move back home to Mexico. It's that simple.

Other immigrants don't resist learning our common language. Mexicans would prefer a life of welfare handouts or lettuce picking jobs, while immigrants from countries like India or China will quickly learn English and be self reliant.
Agreed. Last night I caught a documentary on Chinese students. Their discipline and determination to rise from the ashes of poverty is astounding. On average they study 16 hours per day. Their discipline, culture and family values are beyond admirable. If China ever democratizes, the people of China are already positioned to become the world's super power.

I have a great respect for the people of China.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Those who can't give up their Mexican culture and language ought to move back home to Mexico. It's that simple.

Other immigrants don't resist learning our common language. Mexicans would prefer a life of welfare handouts or lettuce picking jobs, while immigrants from countries like India or China will quickly learn English and be self reliant.

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'Those who can't give up their Mexican culture and language ought to move back home to Mexico. It's that simple'

Lol it is you and your like who will in time learn Mexian culture and Spanish
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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'Those who can't give up their Mexican culture and language ought to move back home to Mexico. It's that simple'

Lol it is you and your like who will in time learn Mexian culture and Spanish
Why when even Mexicans don't want to live in the nation they rule? No thank you, I'll stick with American culture and language. Everyone in the world wants to move to this country -- that ought to tell you something.

You sure don't see Mexicans sneaking into other Spanish speaking countries, they all want in our country.
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:51 AM
 
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The judge was wrong either we are a melting pot or we are not
A melting pot? I wish we were a melting pot but we are not any longer.
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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The judge was wrong either we are a melting pot or we are not
We are a melitn pot so they should learn ENGLISH as a first language.

Im glad and AMERICAN JUDGE with some sense stood up to the Mestizo fodder and showed so cajones.

Now he will probably have his car spray painted because he

DOESNT LIKE ILLEGAL MEXICANS
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:15 PM
 
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The judge was wrong either we are a melting pot or we are not
Let's build upon the "melting pot" ideology. We'll use cooking as an analogy. Do you know what an analogy is, young man? An analogy is a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based.

Let's say that we have decided to cook a lovely pot of Potato-Cheddar Cheese soup for dinner.

We have all of our ingredients, the potatoes, the carrots, the onion, celery, and garlic, as well as several yummy spices and some sharp cheddar cheese. We begin to assemble our ingredients for the soup pot, when all of a sudden, both the celery and the onion decide that they do not wish to meld their flavors with the rest of the veggies. They don't care to contribute to the taste of the soup, and instead have decided that THEY should be used for soups of their own, separate and apart from the other ingredients.

Well, the rest of the ingredients can certainly see the logic in this "me first" attitude. Why should they have to participate in a soup which blends all of their flavors together? Why can't they just keep their own flavor, their own individuality? Why should they be forced to become a part of something bigger than themselves alone?

So now, we have a collection of ingredients that refuse to become a part of the melting pot. Not only do they want to keep their own veggie language, their own veggie flavour and their own veggie culture, but they feel as if they should have the right to impose their flavour, culture, and language on the rest of the vegetables, whether they like it or not.

So instead of scrummy Potato-Cheddar Cheese soup, we have piles of raw potatoes, raw carrots, raw onions, along with the raw celery, garlic, and spices all individually trying to superimpose their characteristics on the other veggies while refusing to get into the soup pot.

America was a melting pot. America is a melting pot no longer. Entire cultures have set up isolated enclaves within her borders, ensuring that they never have to actually become Americans, but guaranteeing that they will have the opportunities that generations of Americans gave their lives to secure.

That is not a melting pot young man. That is a nation of separtists.
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:22 PM
 
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Let's build upon the "melting pot" ideology. We'll use cooking as an analogy. Do you know what an analogy is, young man? An analogy is a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based.

Let's say that we have decided to cook a lovely pot of Potato-Cheddar Cheese soup for dinner.

We have all of our ingredients, the potatoes, the carrots, the onion, celery, and garlic, as well as several yummy spices and some sharp cheddar cheese. We begin to assemble our ingredients for the soup pot, when all of a sudden, both the celery and the onion decide that they do not wish to meld their flavors with the rest of the veggies. They don't care to contribute to the taste of the soup, and instead have decided that THEY should be used for soups of their own, separate and apart from the other ingredients.

Well, the rest of the ingredients can certainly see the logic in this "me first" attitude. Why should they have to participate in a soup which blends all of their flavors together? Why can't they just keep their own flavor, their own individuality? Why should they be forced to become a part of something bigger than themselves alone?

So now, we have a collection of ingredients that refuse to become a part of the melting pot. Not only do they want to keep their own veggie language, their own veggie flavour and their own veggie culture, but they feel as if they should have the right to impose their flavour, culture, and language on the rest of the vegetables, whether they like it or not.

So instead of scrummy Potato-Cheddar Cheese soup, we have piles of raw potatoes, raw carrots, raw onions, along with the raw celery, garlic, and spices all individually trying to superimpose their characteristics on the other veggies while refusing to get into the soup pot.

America was a melting pot. America is a melting pot no longer. Entire cultures have set up isolated enclaves within her borders, ensuring that they never have to actually become Americans, but guaranteeing that they will have the opportunities that generations of Americans gave their lives to secure.

That is not a melting pot young man. That is a nation of separtists.


Great post, Kele!
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