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Old 08-17-2008, 08:22 AM
 
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Though a U.S. citizen — delivered at Toms River's Community Medical Center — Pamela has no birth certificate, and so lacks the anchoring piece to her Americanization.

It's not as if her mother hasn't tried: In the past three years, Adrianna Lopez-Lopez has visited the Toms River Vital Statistics registrar 16 times, bringing fresh identity documentation on each $50 cab ride from her home in Lakewood.

During her first visit, within days of Pamela's birth, she presented a Mexican ID made at a "store near a cemetery." This was, of course, not valid. She was told she needed a passport. So she returned with one. She was told she needed proof of address. She came back with a photo debit card and a statement from a bank account she just opened. They were both rejected.

She brought a doctor's bill, a cell-phone bill, a Sprint invoice, immunization records, a consulate matricula card — all denied.

Bureaucratic maze

"I thought with the bank account they would definitely give it to me — that's where they told me to go — but always, "No,' " the 23-year-old single mother, who emigrated illegally from Mexico six years ago and now cleans houses, said last week, Pamela beside her. "After a while, seeing my face so many times, they wouldn't even look at what I brought."


http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...NEWS/808170441


Anchors away . . . . . .

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Old 08-17-2008, 08:55 AM
 
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Link to story did not work when I clicked on it . . . However, why doesn't the woman just write to her state's bureau of vital statistics (or its equivalent) for a copy of her daughter's birth certificate? That is what I had to do in my state (NC).
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:59 AM
 
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Link to story did not work when I clicked on it . . . However, why doesn't the woman just write to her state's bureau of vital statistics (or its equivalent) for a copy of her daughter's birth certificate? That is what I had to do in my state (NC).
Sorry about that try this one:

Certifying a birth a mother's ordeal | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

In light of the fact that she's here illegally, it wouldn't come as a surprise that she may not be able to read, write or speak English. .
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:07 AM
 
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Thanx for link! I read the article. The woman feels "jaded" . . . good grief.

Let's say I had sneaked into Germany and given birth there. And I showed up somewhere wanting benefits for my child born on German soil. Do you think someone would say - "Go get a birth certificate" or would they just call the police and have me and my kid dumped at the border?

America has turned into a lunatic asylum.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:26 AM
 
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Thanx for link! I read the article. The woman feels "jaded" . . . good grief.

Let's say I had sneaked into Germany and given birth there. And I showed up somewhere wanting benefits for my child born on German soil. Do you think someone would say - "Go get a birth certificate" or would they just call the police and have me and my kid dumped at the border?

America has turned into a lunatic asylum.
Indeed.

And the lunatics are running the asylum.....
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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Thanx for link! I read the article. The woman feels "jaded" . . . good grief.

Let's say I had sneaked into Germany and given birth there. And I showed up somewhere wanting benefits for my child born on German soil. Do you think someone would say - "Go get a birth certificate" or would they just call the police and have me and my kid dumped at the border?

America has turned into a lunatic asylum.
You took the words out of my mouth. I'm going to share the pain by going so far as to say even worse we're beginning to resemble the corrupt, 3rd world cesspool known as Mexico or as I so fondly call it "messy-co."
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:05 AM
 
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Indeed.

And the lunatics are running the asylum.....
Truer words Kele . . . . .
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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Link to story did not work when I clicked on it . . . However, why doesn't the woman just write to her state's bureau of vital statistics (or its equivalent) for a copy of her daughter's birth certificate? That is what I had to do in my state (NC).
My question: Why isn't this illegal mother deported? Even if the anchor baby is legal -- and it seems there is some question about that because otherwise she'd be able to produce a birth certificate, the mother is still illegal. The child has Mexican citizenship and can attend school in Mexico.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:09 AM
 
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My question: Why isn't this illegal mother deported? Even if the anchor baby is legal -- and it seems there is some question about that because otherwise she'd be able to produce a birth certificate, the mother is still illegal. The child has Mexican citizenship and can attend school in Mexico.
Great minds think alike . . . That was my initial thought. It's mind boggling that the hospital and every other place she showed up didn't turn her in. It appears she provided enough proof and information as to her whereabouts.

The insanity continues . . . . .
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:29 AM
 
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My question: Why isn't this illegal mother deported? Even if the anchor baby is legal -- and it seems there is some question about that because otherwise she'd be able to produce a birth certificate, the mother is still illegal. The child has Mexican citizenship and can attend school in Mexico.
No joke there, malamute....................good catch.
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