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Old 08-17-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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Roseann Pulido. She is very active in the area Minutemen. And she calls things exactly as she sees them.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Major Metro
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Hispanics won't be unified enough to perpetuate an all out race war against the rest of the races. In fact, I see racial/ethnic skirmishes happening more within the Hispanic/Latino/Mexican communities as Latinos and Hispanics will become acculturated and thrive while Mexicans who will outnumber these groups by far will remain at the bottom for years to come due to lack of acculteration. I really don't think there will be anything for the other races to be concerned about.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:21 PM
 
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It's been noted that some, if not many, illegal Mexican and Central American migrants who arrive in the US are so spoiled with government benefits that they are not likely to integrate into American society. Combined with the facts that the American Hispanic population will increase immensely overtime and become a majority in some areas of the country, I'm beginning to wonder this: Will race skirmishes become a daily occurrence in the future in perhaps 80 to 100 years from now?

Will we end up seeing Hispanic Americans fighting Black and White Americans over territory and over how the federal and state governments should treat certain racial issues? Will a cultural division between Hispanics and Blacks & Whites eventually turn America into a racial war zone?

I honestly believe that this scenario is inevitable in the future.
This is yet again an example of someone trying to equate illegal immigration with "Hispanics" and then with race.

Many Puerto Ricans in the NE US are mixed white and black and live in neighborhoods with both of these groups. I don't see much of a problem there.

Many Mexicans in the SW US are mixed white and Amerindian and live in neighborhoods with significant presence of (non-Hispanic) whites. I don't see much of a problem there, except in a few poor areas occupied by both Mexicans and blacks.

Many Cubans and South Americans in FL are white and live in neighborhoods with significant presence of (non-Hispanic) whites. I don't see much of a problem there.

This is not to mention the Hispanics in New York and California who live among thousands of Asians. I just don't see much of a problem there.

Where will these racially motivated bloodbaths take place? Only in the minds of those of you who actually believe that this whole debate is about race. There will be a few outlier exceptions, but certainly not the doomsday scenario "rule" scenario that you propose!

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Old 08-17-2008, 08:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I've counted 10 Hispanics who are against illegals.

1) a Cuban spoken with in Phoenix
1) a Puerto Rican spoken with in New York City
2) from "you don't speak for me" website
2) from this forum
1) Jose Feliciano (hearsay)
1) in case I missed somebody

Dang, that's only 8 . . I thought it was 10.
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Roseann Pulido. She is very active in the area Minutemen. And she calls things exactly as she sees them.
How about Al Garza, Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps?
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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There are many people who belong to "You Don't Speak For Me" so you hit your quota and then some!
It's not a "quota" Kele . . just a count. Started a year ago when a Cuban woman told me she despised illegal aliens.

At the moment, there is overwhelming proof Hispanics do "not" see illegal aliens as "illegal aliens", especially if the illegal aliens are Hispanic, which is endorsing a completely subjective application of law, and entirely -- racist. Regardless of their different reasonings in favor of this position, they are willing to dismiss any consequences of the invasion of our borders, especially if the illegal aliens are Hispanic.

Hypocrisy is evident, because were illegals different in nationality, they would, I'm sure, have a completely different stance. It's a slap in the face to anyone American, to listen to the Hispanic community at large promote : "I am Hispanic first, then I am American". And I don't care how they say it, that still comes out the same, it's crap!

Animosity
a feeling of strong dislike, ill will, or enmity that tends to display itself in action.

Pretty much sums up what the Hispanic community at large has cultivated. I'm open to changing my opinion, so I'm counting. Facts . . not hearsay, will do it.

These are the names I pulled from "you don't speak for me" website, I already had 2 of them. Are there more?

Carmen Morales
Mariann S. Davies, Esq
Miguel Cruz
Col. Al Rodriguez
Mariann Davies
Claudia Spencer
Justin Rangel
Maria Chojnowski

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Old 08-17-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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How about Al Garza, Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps?
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It's not a "quota" Kele . . just a count. Started a year ago when a Cuban woman told me she despised illegal aliens.

At the moment, there is overwhelming proof Hispanics do "not" see illegal aliens as "illegal aliens", especially if the illegal aliens are Hispanic, which is endorsing a completely subjective application of law, and entirely -- racist. Regardless of their different reasonings in favor of this position, they are willing to dismiss any consequences of the invasion of our borders, especially if the illegal aliens are Hispanic.

Their hypocrisy is evident, because were illegals different in nationality, they would, I'm sure, have a completely different stance. It's a slap in the face to anyone American, to listen to the Hispanic community at large promote : "I am Hispanic first, then I am American". And I don't care how they say it, that still comes out the same, crap!

Animosity
a feeling of strong dislike, ill will, or enmity that tends to display itself in action.

Pretty much sums up what the Hispanic community at large has cultivated.

I'm open to changing my opinion, so I'm counting. Facts . . not hearsay, will change my opinion.

These are the names I pulled from "you don't speak for me" website, I already had 2 of them. Are there more?

Carmen Morales
Mariann S. Davies, Esq
Miguel Cruz
Col. Al Rodriguez
Mariann Davies
Claudia Spencer
Justin Rangel
Maria Chojnowski
Yeah, see above.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Hispanics won't be unified enough to perpetuate an all out race war against the rest of the races. In fact, I see racial/ethnic skirmishes happening more within the Hispanic/Latino/Mexican communities as Latinos and Hispanics will become acculturated and thrive while Mexicans who will outnumber these groups by far will remain at the bottom for years to come due to lack of acculteration. I really don't think there will be anything for the other races to be concerned about.
Don't see it happening at all. Mexicans are integrated already in South Florida and NY with others from Latin America. The only place I can see this possibly happening is on the West Coast and Texas, but I highly doubt it as already many Puerto Ricans are in San Diego married to Mexicans. You may want to believe what you say, but I am telling you it just isn't true, even Cubans who have seemed to win the respect of White Americans are integrating with Mexicans.

You know Mexicans do acculturate, you should not base your entire knowledge of Mexicans on what you know from watching illegals who are from very poor areas of Mexico.

It's really unfortunate that you have not met enough American Mexicans that have acculturated, it seems you have a very bad impression. If you think all Mexicans are happy being low, perhaps you should head to the Mexico forum and see for yourself that all is not that way.

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Old 08-17-2008, 10:00 PM
 
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I certainly HOPE racial skirmishes don't become common...my kids and grandkids would have to start BEATING THEMSELVES up !....and that doesn't sound fun at ALL....
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Old 08-17-2008, 10:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I certainly HOPE racial skirmishes don't become common...my kids and grandkids would have to start BEATING THEMSELVES up !....and that doesn't sound fun at ALL....
Yeah, mine too.

That would certainly blow the h*ll out of our "one big, happy family" motto.
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