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Old 09-26-2008, 04:22 AM
 
Location: McMinnville Oregon
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Look on the bright side.. we are all just getting well rounded
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Nothing wrong with being bilingual. It surely doesn't hurt and makes traveling to Mexico on vacation much easier.
I my particular case; I visited Mexico once and if I ever see that country again------------it will be too soon. Drove down to Tijuana back in 1980; had a very creepy feeling and hightailed it out of there without stopping. Not thank you.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Look on the bright side.. we are all just getting well rounded
Point taken: the cold reality is that outside of most of Latin America and Spain; Spanish is not widely spoken---------------English, OTOH, is the lingua franca of the world.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Look on the bright side.. we are all just getting well rounded
I spent time this summer in Italy, France, Switzerland, and Belgium. There was not even a gas station, a hotel, or the European equivalent of a 7-11, let alone major city, where people did not speak English. I barely had the opportunity to use my college French and even then, people would smile and answer me in English!

English is the lingua franca of business, of commerce, and apparently, of most of the industrialized world.

I'm glad that I know two languages other than English, but it is more for intellectual enrichment, and not because of need.

If they expect to get on the economic bandwagon, it would behoove Mexico and its people to learn to speak English. In a few years, it will be much more necessary for navigating the world than Spanish.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:04 AM
 
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I my particular case; I visited Mexico once and if I ever see that country again------------it will be too soon. Drove down to Tijuana back in 1980; had a very creepy feeling and hightailed it out of there without stopping. Not thank you.
The beach resorts are quite awesome. I've been to Hualtuco, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta (my favoite ) and Acapulco. All awesome vacation destinations. I've also been to Nogales and Tijuana. They are definitely not vacation destinations unless you need cheap dental care or prescription medicines or like the seedy side. I always buy some antibiotics when I go to Mexico. Whenever I get a cold or sinus infection, my doctor prescribes that Z-Pack. They are so much cheaper in Mexico! And the prices on silver, onyx and handmade wool blankets can't be beat.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I my particular case; I visited Mexico once and if I ever see that country again------------it will be too soon. Drove down to Tijuana back in 1980; had a very creepy feeling and hightailed it out of there without stopping. Not thank you.
My wife and I travel extensively throughout Mexico quite often - and we love it.

The road south from TJ is actually quite good - and TJ itself is a hoot!

You should really try it again -
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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If they expect to get on the economic bandwagon, it would behoove Mexico and its people to learn to speak English. In a few years, it will be much more necessary for navigating the world than Spanish.
Actually alot of people in Mexico DO speak English. But these are the ruling class ($$$) and middle class which is a small part of Mexican society. What we get here in the U.S. are the poor, uneducated, low-skilled, or unskilled illegal immigrants that won't or can't learn a second language. Sorry people, but the average Mexican immigrant is illegal and not the cream of the crop of Mexican society!

Only their second generation anchor babies will learn some English, but with so many services being offered in Spanish and so many Spanish media outlets available in the U.S. the parents will continue to speak Spanish at home and while conducting business outside the home. And with Mexican macho male chauvinism being imported also, alot of women stay home and don't get educated and never learn English. Or if they do work, they go to their mostly illegal alien factories or family owned stores/restaurants and are not expected or encouraged to learn English.

I've seen it first hand folks. I'm not ranting w/o some experience with this. I dated an immigrant Honduran lady for about 9 months. She lived with her sisters' family. Her Mexican brother-in-law ran his house like this. I also saw it with many others while working at the largest meat packing plant in the world in Tar Heel, NC.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:08 PM
 
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Psst - I already speak 4+ languages, and not one of them is Spanish. How's that for "different"?

So in your world, the only two languages to learn are English and Spanish? I think you're missing the point - he didn't say to learn "different" languages, he specifically said to learn Spanish. I too call foul on that.

Just like in canada is encourage to learn french because of a big minority that was there before the English canadians it shouldn't be a problem to encourage learning spanish in the United States.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:11 PM
 
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Just like in canada is encourage to learn french because of a big minority that was there before the English canadians it shouldn't be a problem to encourage learning spanish in the United States.
And how is that working for the Canadians? It is my understanding that Quebec would like to become independent from Canada. Apparently having two languages is not quite so unifying, is it?
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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And how is that working for the Canadians? It is my understanding that Quebec would like to become independent from Canada. Apparently having two languages is not quite so unifying, is it?
At one point, a large part of the United States wanted to become independent, and they STILL wave their flags around(ps..im not talking about the southwest, and the flag isn't that of Mexico).

But the U.S. seems to be doing fine, and so does Canada.
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