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Old 04-07-2009, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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No, they are here legally. The majority of Hispanics are legal remember.

Drugs and illegal immigration are two things that are not black and white.
WRONG!

Illegal aliens are criminals for all practical intents and purposes and they need to be punished accordingly.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What are you talking about? 40 years ago, people were being lynched and beaten for their color of their skin.
Certain races were being disenfranchised, barely allowed to participate in this country.

Now we are much closer to being equal, we are the most integrated as we have ever been, and prejudice is being replaced with tolerance more and more.
And this is the destruction of our nation?

Mulitcultralism comes up in this forum so much, i wonder how sincere people are when they say they only have a problem with "illegals".
60 years ago: White Jews were not allowed to live in certain areas so social/legal discrimination/prejudice was not just directed against Americans with darker skin.

And; such nonsense was not just a US thing............there was discrimination in many places.

Little side note: supposedly it is illegal for a White person to receive citizenship in Liberia-------------that reeks of bald faced racism.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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Default speaking Spanish

I for one , want my daughter to do things I can be proud of ! The t.v. shows the people " I" want to be around on the Spanish station and my wife have a high regard for Spain and Europe. The t.v. shows good looking women and men. Not the hard working fleas. O.K. ! But we all descriminate in some ways! Why is Paris Hilton givin the limelight ! This proves my point ! What would one do with Spanish except work with the police or in Denny's ? If one takes French or German, one can go to Switzerland or Austria. They are higher rated than the U.S. This IS a violent country ! This last week REALLY shows it . Opinions anyone.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:05 AM
 
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WRONG!

Illegal aliens are criminals for all practical intents and purposes and they need to be punished accordingly.
What are you talking about? Please stay in the context of the conversation. All Hispanics are illegal? Most Hispanics are legal. Put down the flag, and calm down.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:09 AM
 
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60 years ago: White Jews were not allowed to live in certain areas so social/legal discrimination/prejudice was not just directed against Americans with darker skin.

And; such nonsense was not just a US thing............there was discrimination in many places.

Little side note: supposedly it is illegal for a White person to receive citizenship in Liberia-------------that reeks of bald faced racism.
Having a family that is "White Jew", we were doing pretty well not living next to golf courses. Jews could, and did, "pass".

Nobody is disputing the second part. Just because one nation does it, does not justify anything.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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Excessive multiculturalism divides a nation which leads to balkanization, which can destroy a nation. It's happening to the US before our very eyes. Our founding fathers warned against this. Ardent nationalism, to the contrary, UNITES a nation. The US used to be full of patriots. Not so much anymore.
Really? Balkanization was due to ardent nationalism...not multiculturalism. Each "nation" felt that Yugoslavia was not beneficial to it's people. Serbs killed others on the bsasis of culture. This is not multiculturalism.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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WRONG!

Illegal aliens are criminals for all practical intents and purposes and they need to be punished accordingly.
This is why the problem with illegal aliens will never be solve, because people like ArizonaBear blamed illegal aliens for being here illegal.

Why not blame Corporate America and the U.S. government? Corporate America wants the cheap labors (reason no.1 illegals are here) illegal aliens can find jobs pretty easy.

If the U.S. government really wants to STOP illegal aliens they can take 2 simple steps:

1) Put in jail the CEO of every company that hired illegal aliens (i'll bet they will stop hiring illegal aliens once they A$$ is in jail).

2) Don't give citizenship to a person just because it was born here (In Europe at least one parent need to be living in the country as a permanent resident) for their kids to become citizen at birth.

Once they can't find jobs or know that their kids won't automatilly become American citizen they will stop coming.

Mexican and other Latin American citizen can travel visa free to the European Union and Canada, but they don't stay there illegally or give birth there because they know that it will be more than impossible to find a job, and completely impossible for their kids to become citizen at birth.

Believe it or not the U.S of A can learn something from other countries, it won't kill us or makes us look weak

By the way i'm Hispanic too if you haven't figure it out by my name yet.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Really? Balkanization was due to ardent nationalism...not multiculturalism. Each "nation" felt that Yugoslavia was not beneficial to it's people. Serbs killed others on the bsasis of culture. This is not multiculturalism.
One can readily see why the promotion of multiculturalism would be such an important concept in the agendas of pro illegal apologizers/sympathisers/enablers. Within a nation excessive multiculturalism can lead to balkanization like what is happening to the US. Within a nation, ardent nationalism leads to unity, citizens with a united purpose. Ardent nationalism could only possibly lead to balkanization between that nationalistic nation and other sovereign nations, much like multiculturalism leads to balkanization within a nation.

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Old 04-07-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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One can readily see why the promotion of multiculturalism would be such an important concept in the agendas of pro illegal apologizers/sympathisers/enablers. Within a nation excessive multiculturalism can lead to balkanization like what is happening to the US. Within a nation, ardent nationalism leads to unity, citizens with a united purpose. Ardent nationalism could only possibly lead to balkanization between that nationalistic nation and other sovereign nations, much like multiculturalism leads to balkanization within a nation.
Nope.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:22 AM
 
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Really? Balkanization was due to ardent nationalism...not multiculturalism. Each "nation" felt that Yugoslavia was not beneficial to it's people. Serbs killed others on the bsasis of culture. This is not multiculturalism.
I see. So in the South 60 years ago, when whites lynched blacks, it wasn't due to racism or hate, but rather caused by 'excessive sense of group interests'. Whites didn't kill blacks because they HATED them....they killed them because they didn't see blacks as being 'beneficial' to white interests. CULTURES don't clash, since, as we all know, they're uniformly good, benevolent, equivalent, and inclusive. What causes CLASHES are those 'interests'. You get a couple of "interests" together, and watch out!

Gotcha....
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