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Old 08-18-2008, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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He never said that....
I dont Obama NEEDS to tell me what my childern NEED to learn.
I hope this Empty Suit doesnt get elected.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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It would be great if more children were raised to speak English and Spanish. However, there is absolutely no need for children to learn Spanish because we live in an Anglophone nation and the de facto language of commerce in the world is English. Spanish is a beautiful language - I speak it and love it! - but only English is necessary in this country. I grew up in one of the most heavily Spanish-speaking regions in the Anglophone world (South Florida) and lots of kids I know with Spanish-speaking parents/grandparents cannot speak Spanish well - they speak English everywhere they go and know that Spanish is almost never required save for a small percentage of jobs and international travel.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Pssst, good for you, give yourself a pat on the back. Now, maybe you want to think this through & learn spanish. After all, there is quite a huge population that speaks that language, maybe you'll get some use out of it?
Psst, how about if you stop focusing on my specific case, and actually address the point that I made? Oh that's right, you can't.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:11 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Psst, how about if you stop focusing on my specific case, and actually address the point that I made? Oh that's right, you can't.
Can you read? I did address your post.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:12 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Can you read? I did address your post.
Do you know the difference between a post, and a point? If not, then you are really in the wrong place to attempt a debate with anyone.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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This is the full quote:

"I agree that immigrants should learn English," Obama said. "But instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English — they'll learn English — you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish. You should be thinking about how can your child become bilingual. We should have every child speaking more than one language."

And his further explanation:

"...I said, absolutely immigrants need to learn English, but we also need to learn foreign languages," the likely Democratic nominee said as the 1,000-plus crowd in a school gymnasium cheered. It's a position he long has held.
"This is an example of some of the problems we get into when somebody attacks you for saying the truth, which is: We should want our children with more knowledge. We should want our children to have more skills. There's nothing wrong with that. That's a good thing. I know, because I don't speak a foreign language. It's embarrassing," Obama said chuckling as his audience did the same.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...822015,00.html
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:43 PM
 
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Then he should have said 'foreign languages' and not specifically Spanish.
Also, when he made this comment -- where and to whom was he giving saying this to? This would help to clarify his motivation behind the words he chose to use.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:53 PM
 
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Then he should have said 'foreign languages' and not specifically Spanish.
Also, when he made this comment -- where and to whom was he giving saying this to? This would help to clarify his motivation behind the words he chose to use.
I do agree it would have been better if he had said 'foreign languages'.

He made the comment on July 8th in Georgia when answering a question on education.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:57 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Do you know the difference between a post, and a point? If not, then you are really in the wrong place to attempt a debate with anyone.
I see, so because you don't agree w/ my post, you think I didn't make a point. If you re-read it, you would see that I did. My point? Great that you're fluent in 4 languages, however spanish is not one of them. Because of the high number of spanish speakers not only here but in other countries, it seems to me that it would be beneficial to learn the language. It's called "adapting"....as other countries around the world require english as a second language in school, it would benefit our country to require spanish as a second language. Do you understand now?
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I see, so because you don't agree w/ my post, you think I didn't make a point. If you re-read it, you would see that I did. My point? Great that you're fluent in 4 languages, however spanish is not one of them. Because of the high number of spanish speakers not only here but in other countries, it seems to me that it would be beneficial to learn the language. It's called "adapting"....as other countries around the world require english as a second language in school, it would benefit our country to require spanish as a second language. Do you understand now?
If US schools were going to REQUIRE a specific second language, wouldn't it be better to require the language spoken by the largest amount of people worldwide?

Mandarin Chinese?
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