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Old 08-20-2008, 07:01 PM
 
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When emergency workers arrived at the scene of the crash last February 19, they found the bright yellow school bus lying shattered on its side. A few minutes earlier, the bus had been carrying 28 children home from the Lakeview School in Cottonwood, Minnesota. That's when a van barreled through a stop sign and smashed into the bus, killing four students between the ages of 9 and 13. Marty and Rita Javens lost two sons, Hunter and Jesse. Six other children were seriously injured.

The woman who police say was driving the van -- a 24-year-old illegal immigrant from Guatemala named Olga Marina Franco del Cid -- did not have a valid driver's license. Even worse, she'd been caught driving illegally before. In 2006 a resident of Montevideo, Minnesota, called police about a driver who had plowed into her yard. The driver was Franco, who managed to hide her illegal status and pleaded guilty to driving without a license. Her punishment? A $182 fine.

One in five fatal crashes per year involves a driver without a proper license.

How many unlicensed drivers are on our roads? No one knows for sure, but the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles recently estimated that there were "tens of thousands" of unlicensed drivers in that state alone. And just last year the California Highway Patrol issued more than 132,000 citations to unlicensed drivers. All this helps explain why America suffers a stomach-turning 117 driving-related deaths per day. "People act like it's their right to drive whether they're licensed or not," says Oklahoma County Sheriff John Whetsel, who oversees traffic safety for the National Sheriffs' Association. "They don't care, and they put other people at risk as a result."

Cracking Down on Illegal Drivers | Michael Crowley | Reader's Digest (http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/cracking-down-on-illegal-drivers/article96761.html - broken link)
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:33 PM
 
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When emergency workers arrived at the scene of the crash last February 19, they found the bright yellow school bus lying shattered on its side. A few minutes earlier, the bus had been carrying 28 children home from the Lakeview School in Cottonwood, Minnesota. That's when a van barreled through a stop sign and smashed into the bus, killing four students between the ages of 9 and 13. Marty and Rita Javens lost two sons, Hunter and Jesse. Six other children were seriously injured.

The woman who police say was driving the van -- a 24-year-old illegal immigrant from Guatemala named Olga Marina Franco del Cid -- did not have a valid driver's license. Even worse, she'd been caught driving illegally before. In 2006 a resident of Montevideo, Minnesota, called police about a driver who had plowed into her yard. The driver was Franco, who managed to hide her illegal status and pleaded guilty to driving without a license. Her punishment? A $182 fine.

One in five fatal crashes per year involves a driver without a proper license.

How many unlicensed drivers are on our roads? No one knows for sure, but the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles recently estimated that there were "tens of thousands" of unlicensed drivers in that state alone. And just last year the California Highway Patrol issued more than 132,000 citations to unlicensed drivers. All this helps explain why America suffers a stomach-turning 117 driving-related deaths per day. "People act like it's their right to drive whether they're licensed or not," says Oklahoma County Sheriff John Whetsel, who oversees traffic safety for the National Sheriffs' Association. "They don't care, and they put other people at risk as a result."
Sorry, JDubsMom, this point alone is the primary reason for the problem . . . issuing a citation is a JOKE.

Once an individual is stopped for even the slightest violation (registration, vehicle equipment or driving violation) and it is determined he is unlicensed . . . IMMEDIATE SLAMMER should be required and DEPORTATION if he is in this country illegally.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:51 PM
 
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Sorry, JDubsMom, this point alone is the primary reason for the problem . . . issuing a citation is a JOKE.

Once an individual is stopped for even the slightest violation (registration, vehicle equipment or driving violation) and it is determined he is unlicensed . . . IMMEDIATE SLAMMER should be required and DEPORTATION if he is in this country illegally.
I couldn't agree more. That would put a stop to a lot of the insanity that we continue to read about.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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But lets be fair on this point....anyone found driving without a license and without insurance deserves a heavy fine plus some jail time. If found to be driving repeatedly without a license and insurance, I believe a prison sentence would be in order. If they are here illegally, then they should be deported in lieu of fine and time.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:04 PM
 
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But dangerous unlicensed driving is by no means limited to illegal immigrants. Look at Bobbie Hills, whose license was revoked in 2003 after she suffered an epileptic seizure while driving. On January 5, 2005, the 46-year-old Orlando, Florida, woman was driving home from work when she had another seizure. She lost control of her SUV and hit 14-year-old Gaston Roy Johnson, Jr. The high school student was killed instantly
Cracking Down on Illegal Drivers | Michael Crowley | Reader's Digest (http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/cracking-down-on-illegal-drivers/article96761.html - broken link)
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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it is a larger problem than just illegals. the difference is that one is a citizen, the other is not. any time we can prevent this from happening, it's a good thing.

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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But lets be fair on this point....anyone found driving without a license and without insurance deserves a heavy fine plus some jail time. If found to be driving repeatedly without a license and insurance, I believe a prison sentence would be in order. If they are here illegally, then they should be deported in lieu of fine and time.
Absolutely, Camping.

My point was NO CITATION . . . any individual, legal or otherwise, blatantly driving without a license has no respect for the laws and will probably ignore the citation and continue to drive. SEIZE the vehicle and haul the sucker off to the slammer immediately. Once legal status is established plus license and proof of insurance is presented and all fines are paid, then release the vehicle.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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I am glad to see an older thread like this indicating how long the problem of illegal aliens causing mayhem and death while driving has been going on in our country.

Sadly examples are out there going back many more decades, and they didn't keep stats on it back then either.

You just wonder when the American public will wake up and say enough is enough.


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Old 08-02-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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a 24-year-old illegal immigrant from Guatemala named Olga Marina Franco del Cid -- did not have a valid driver's license. Even worse, she'd been caught driving illegally before. In 2006 a resident of Montevideo, Minnesota, called police about a driver who had plowed into her yard. The driver was Franco, who managed to hide her illegal status and pleaded guilty to driving without a license. Her punishment? A $182 fine.
I'd like to see the municipalities that release these illegals be held accountable for the deaths of their victims, they can pay restitution to their families. News on the "Angel Family" legislation has sure been quiet lately....
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