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Old 08-21-2008, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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We have a wacko legislator here in NC who is trying to assure that kids of illegals get a college education, despite legislation banning anyone (who cannot prove their citizenship) from enrolling in state institutions.

Illegal immigrants face threat of no college - USATODAY.com

"Opponents say students shouldn't be penalized for their parents' actions. Helping them is "the right thing to do even if it's unpopular," says North Carolina state Rep. Pricey Harrison, a Democrat who introduced a bill that would prevent state institutions from asking about students' immigration status."
If they spend half as much time and energy concerned with the dropout rate among U.S. citizens, perhaps we could help our own students receive a college education.
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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If they spend half as much time and energy concerned with the dropout rate among U.S. citizens, perhaps we could help our own students receive a college education.
This kills me to say this but it seems that the Latinos are the annointed ones in our country.
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You can't trust ANYBODY named 'Pricey'...
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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if they spend half as much time and energy concerned with the dropout rate among u.s. Citizens, perhaps we could help our own students receive a college education.
thank you!!!!
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:21 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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once again, the analogy brings up the concept of punishing kids for their parents actions. punishing people who by no fault of their own are in a foreign country. and thriving academically in said foreign country.
but i dont think you guys get this.

i try and try to stay away from this board, but the laughs you guys elicit in me are too good. some of you are scary tho.

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I don’t care if the parents and grandparents have been deported. Allowing this illegal alien to remain in this country, and receive a college scholarship, is still rewarding his parents for violating our laws.

There are millions of children in this country with incarcerated parents. If you do the crime, you do the time. No one is suggesting children should join their parents in jail, and it is ludicrous to compare having children join their parents in their country of origin with children being punished along with their imprisoned parents. Apples and oranges.

If we’re going to ‘reward’ children of illegal aliens with a college education, we should provide money market accounts for children of bank robbers. Both are equally absurd.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:22 PM
 
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You can't trust ANYBODY named 'Pricey'...
Ha! At least not with someone else's money
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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well ani we werent talking about coming illegally. the other poster whom i quoted talked about family re-unification. which is about sponsoring family members. legally sponsoring family. thats what i was talking about

besides i know people leave and come back repeatedly, or are kicked out and come back. we have a porous border. thats one of the biggest problems. fix that, problem half taken care of.

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No disrespect intended, One, but here in NC, we recently had a case that involved an illegal who had been deported 8 times. Yep, 8 times. I wish I could find the link. He had been deported from other states as well as NC, including Virginia and maybe - Georgia. Truly - 8 times. So he managed to get back in right away. He had used different identities and committed crimes every time, been deported, and still sneaked right back in.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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If we can't keep them out maybe we should just conquer their country (Mexico) and make them a part of the USA. WITH OUR RULES...and maybe we could improve the entire country.......and bring ours up. Random thought. BUt they definitely would have to work on the table and pay taxes like everyone else.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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You can't trust ANYBODY named 'Pricey'...
HEE HEE HEE. Well, I sure hope the voters in his district get the message!!!!
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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well ani we werent talking about coming illegally. the other poster whom i quoted talked about family re-unification. which is about sponsoring family members. legally sponsoring family. thats what i was talking about

besides i know people leave and come back repeatedly, or are kicked out and come back. we have a porous border. thats one of the biggest problems. fix that, problem half taken care of.
I would be interested in knowing more about what you feel is fair and equitable in regard to re-unification. I guess this is something I have not explored enuff to really understand differing points of view.

I understand that it would be traumatic and certainly unfair for a child who had grown up here to suddenly be deported back to Colombia, for example. But if the parents are both here illegally . . . what is the fair and equitable thing to do? Yes, the young man in this story must be exceptional by anyone's standards. And regardless of ability to pay or not pay the tuition, Georgetown is only going to admit academic achievers. So this young man will doubtless be a positive asset to society. However, he is not a citizen - and his advocates helped him side-step "the rules" by declaring him an international student, if I understood the article correctly. This still does not gain him citizenship in the USA, right? So what is he to do when he finishes up his degree(s)? Apply for work in the USA on a VISA? Go back to his country of birth?

Correct me if I am wrong . . . but don't we have a system in place here that if someone serves in our military, they are in line for citizenship when they finish their tour of duty? So isn't that the way a young man could gain citizenship here?
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