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Old 08-21-2008, 11:19 AM
 
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“As religious leaders we understand and support the need to apprehend and arrest individuals who are responsible for felonies and other serious crimes. The enforcement of just laws is necessary for public safety and the common good. But the arrest of serious criminals is not what we have observed in the arrest and detention of immigrants that has taken place recently in our State, particularly in Newport and in Providence.”

The letter was sent to ICE in response to concerns about the spiritual and pastoral well-being of immigrants - documented and undocumented - entrusted to the care of the Catholic Church. The bishop and pastors believe that a moratorium on raids will provide the necessary time for the federal government to propose, debate and enact comprehensive immigration reform.

“What we have witnessed is that the police action of ICE against immigrants has divided the community, instilled fear in our streets, disrupted the everyday life of good people and separated family members, innocent of any crime, from one another,” the bishop and clergy added. ”The confusing and secretive detention of those arrested has further complicated the situation. As religious leaders concerned for our people we would be negligent of our pastoral duties if we didn’t speak out against these unjust government policies and practices.”

The Bishop and pastors also urged ICE officials to question the morality of their participation in immigration raids. They believe that agents should not be forced to participate in such raids if agents conclude that such actions are immoral or contrary to their personal or religious beliefs.

“…we encourage the agents and staff of ICE to evaluate the morality of their participation in immigration raids in the context of their faith and sanctity of their conscience,” the Bishop and pastors wrote. “If their discernment leads them to the conclusion that they cannot participate in such raids in good conscience, we urge them not to do so. If ICE agents refuse to participate in immigration raids in conformity with their faith and conscience, we urge the Federal Government to fully respect the well-founded principles of conscientious objection.”


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Isn't aiding and abetting a felony? If caught harboring illegal aliens under the guise of providing a sanctuary, the priests should be arrested, charged and convicted and the church should have it's tax exempt status revoked.

They all seem to think they are above the law.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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Isn't aiding and abetting a felony? If caught harboring illegal aliens under the guise of providing a sanctuary, the priests should be arrested, charged and convicted and the church should have it's tax exempt status revoked.

They all seem to think they are above the law.
Yes, this is in fact aiding and abetting. However, they won't have their tax exempt status revoked, because they are facilitating the illegal alien 'slave' trade. I wouldn't be surprised if the government is financing some of these churches. Otherwise, why are they so brazen?
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes, this is in fact aiding and abetting. However, they won't have their tax exempt status revoked, because they are facilitating the illegal alien 'slave' trade. I wouldn't be surprised if the government is financing some of these churches. Otherwise, why are they so brazen?
The only other reason I can think of is desperation to restock their victims for the purpose of future molestation, and to refill the coffers that were depleted as a result of the enormous settlements they've had to pay. Then again, maybe they have special insurance that covers pedophilia

Frankly, I find the hypocrits known as the catholic church officials a disgusting bunch.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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The only other reason I can think of is desperation to restock their victims for the purpose of future molestation, and to refill the coffers that were depleted as a result of the enormous settlements they've had to pay. Then again, maybe they have special insurance that covers pedophilia

Frankly, I find the hypocrits known as the catholic church officials a disgusting bunch.
I couldn't agree with you more. Got to spread the love around more or I would have repped you.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:24 PM
 
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The only other reason I can think of is desperation to restock their victims for the purpose of future molestation, and to refill the coffers that were depleted as a result of the enormous settlements they've had to pay. Then again, maybe they have special insurance that covers pedophilia

Frankly, I find the hypocrits known as the catholic church officials a disgusting bunch.
Yes, all catholics are pedophile lovers.....they just love to offer the young flesh of their children to the priests. They also all eat babies at passover,oops! My bad, wrong religion smear
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:26 PM
 
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The catholic church is very liberal -- with the exception of abortion -- so this does not surprise me at all. I also wouldn't be surprised if they noticed the money to stop flowing so freely. Catholics have learned many things in the past several decades, the biggest of which is that tithing (and the lack thereof) talks.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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The article says - this situation is dividing the community. Well, uh, the community is made up of illegals who should not even be here. Send them all back home where they can be united. I am sure there is a Catholic church in the neighborhoods where they used to live b/f they decided to hop across the border and squat ILLEGALLY in Rhode Island.

As far as ICE agents refusing to PERFORM THE DUTIES THEY ARE HIRED TO PERFORM, they should be fired for not fulfilling their job descriptions if they refuse to round up illegals for deportation.

You gotta wonder what the Catholic Church thinks will be of benefit to THE CHURCH by getting involved in this issue. Couldn't be that attendance is down and no one will be there to fill the coffers in ethnic parishes if everyone who is in RI illegally gets sent back home, could it????
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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compassion is good. breaking the law is not.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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The article says - this situation is dividing the community. Well, uh, the community is made up of illegals who should not even be here. Send them all back home where they can be united. I am sure there is a Catholic church in the neighborhoods where they used to live b/f they decided to hop across the border and squat ILLEGALLY in Rhode Island.

As far as ICE agents refusing to PERFORM THE DUTIES THEY ARE HIRED TO PERFORM, they should be fired for not fulfilling their job descriptions if they refuse to round up illegals for deportation.

You gotta wonder what the Catholic Church thinks will be of benefit to THE CHURCH by getting involved in this issue. Couldn't be that attendance is down and no one will be there to fill the coffers in ethnic parishes if everyone who is in RI illegally gets sent back home, could it????
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner!
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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“What we have witnessed is that the police action of ICE against immigrants has divided the community, instilled fear in our streets, disrupted the everyday life of good people and separated family members, innocent of any crime, from one another,” the bishop and clergy added. ”The confusing and secretive detention of those arrested has further complicated the situation. As religious leaders concerned for our people we would be negligent of our pastoral duties if we didn’t speak out against these unjust government policies and practices.”
I beg your pardon?!?!?

If they were 'innocent of any crime' they wouldn't be getting arrested in raids, now would they?

Most of my family is Catholic, but NONE of them agree with this kind of blatant propaganda!
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