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Old 08-22-2008, 05:39 PM
 
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You think that there are 31 million "illegals" in this country?!?
yup
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:39 PM
 
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And half of them live in Southern California, right?
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:42 PM
 
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I'm sorry to say but a deliberate anti-illegal website does not agree with you. Immigration Counters.com - Live Data
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:45 PM
 
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I'm sorry to say but a deliberate anti-illegal website does not agree with you. Immigration Counters.com - Live Data
And that's their estimate. I thought the number was closer to 10-15 million, but I'm not in the field counting "illegals" so who the hell knows.
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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JDubsMom, 2.1 babies per woman is the replacement rate in population. If Hispanic women in the US are having 2.3 babies an average, this is barely over the replacement rate and far being characteristic as "breeding like wild animals with no sense of responsibility." If you want that I suggest you go to the ghetto where I'm sure you will find your fair share of women with six kids who they can't support without government funds - but oh yeah, that's fine because they're American, right?

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Again, this is coming from someone who is actually OF mexican descent, so it comes with NO bias. They DO breed like rats. Maybe not the americanized ones. BUT THEY DO. The stories I could tell you.
And yes, a TON of them come here to abuse the system and continually spew out children to keep reaping the benefits. Do other legal citizens do this as well? Yes. Does it make it right? NO.
But there are stereotypes for a reason. If asian women were doing the same thing I'm sure people would be categorizing about them...funny thing is..I've never heard them doing that..so you have to realize something correlates there.
Again, my mother is mexican...but she is hardworking and none of my family has ever been on the welfare system..and no one has more kids than they can afford...most have two or less. Don't you ever ask yourself when you see two FOBs with their 6 children...how they support themselves? Does anyone do that except for me?

I always find it hard to believe that the husband can be working an undertable job (putting other citizens out of work b/c he will work for $5/hr and send it back to his *****ty country) and the wife is at home with like 3-4 kids and a 7 month bowling ball belly..when I , 23 w/ no children, work at a good company with a little bit above average pay..and could never imagine being able to support more than 2 children in my lifetime. So how are they affording it? I hate to make you extreme liberals answer that.
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:51 PM
 
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I think that you very well COULD be biased if you conclude from looking at a statistic of 2.3 births/woman - a mere 0.2 births more than the rate of replacement, mind you - that Mexican women overbreed like animals. It's just not a reasonable conclusion given the facts. I don't doubt that you've seen your fair share of 23 year old Mexican girls with 4 kids but given the actual data on the matter, they are the exception and not the norm.

And after having several of my posts, would you really call me an "extreme liberal" ?
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:51 PM
 
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Again, this is coming from someone who is actually OF mexican descent, so it comes with NO bias. They DO breed like rats. Maybe not the americanized ones. BUT THEY DO. The stories I could tell you.
And yes, a TON of them come here to abuse the system and continually spew out children to keep reaping the benefits. Do other legal citizens do this as well? Yes. Does it make it right? NO.
But there are stereotypes for a reason. If asian women were doing the same thing I'm sure people would be categorizing about them...funny thing is..I've never heard them doing that..so you have to realize something correlates there.
Again, my mother is mexican...but she is hardworking and none of my family has ever been on the welfare system..and no one has more kids than they can afford...most have two or less. Don't you ever ask yourself when you see two FOBs with their 6 children...how they support themselves? Does anyone do that except for me?

I always find it hard to believe that the husband can be working an undertable job (putting other citizens out of work b/c he will work for $5/hr and send it back to his *****ty country) and the wife is at home with like 3-4 kids and a 7 month bowling ball belly..when I , 23 w/ no children, work at a good company with a little bit above average pay..and could never imagine being able to support more than 2 children in my lifetime. So how are they affording it? I hate to make you extreme liberals answer that.
Dude, everything comes with a bias one way or another.
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:00 PM
 
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Again, this is coming from someone who is actually OF mexican descent, so it comes with NO bias. They DO breed like rats. Maybe not the americanized ones. BUT THEY DO. The stories I could tell you.
And yes, a TON of them come here to abuse the system and continually spew out children to keep reaping the benefits. Do other legal citizens do this as well? Yes. Does it make it right? NO.
But there are stereotypes for a reason. If asian women were doing the same thing I'm sure people would be categorizing about them...funny thing is..I've never heard them doing that..so you have to realize something correlates there.
Again, my mother is mexican...but she is hardworking and none of my family has ever been on the welfare system..and no one has more kids than they can afford...most have two or less. Don't you ever ask yourself when you see two FOBs with their 6 children...how they support themselves? Does anyone do that except for me?

I always find it hard to believe that the husband can be working an undertable job (putting other citizens out of work b/c he will work for $5/hr and send it back to his *****ty country) and the wife is at home with like 3-4 kids and a 7 month bowling ball belly..when I , 23 w/ no children, work at a good company with a little bit above average pay..and could never imagine being able to support more than 2 children in my lifetime. So how are they affording it? I hate to make you extreme liberals answer that.
Excellent post. Sorry I couldn't rep you. I see them every single day in downtown Chicago. Those I see appear to be anywhere from the age of 14 to 40, many of which more likely than not are illegal aliens. I have never, ever seen any of them with less than 3 children and one in the oven. Not a word of English is ever spoken while they are happily chatting and excited in their quest to locate the welfare office.
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:03 PM
 
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Dude, everything comes with a bias one way or another.
I'm not a DUDE. I'm a girl. See pic lol :-D
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:05 PM
 
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I think that you very well COULD be biased if you conclude from looking at a statistic of 2.3 births/woman - a mere 0.2 births more than the rate of replacement, mind you - that Mexican women overbreed like animals. It's just not a reasonable conclusion given the facts. I don't doubt that you've seen your fair share of 23 year old Mexican girls with 4 kids but given the actual data on the matter, they are the exception and not the norm.

And after having several of my posts, would you really call me an "extreme liberal" ?
No no no..I'm not calling you an extreme liberal personally..I'm giving that question TO the extreme liberals. Not directed at you. I don't think you are an extreme liberal at all.
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