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Old 08-25-2008, 11:31 AM
 
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It really makes me wonder if those who are going to choose not to post here will be sending their surrogates over.
Of course they are. One by one the Dreamies will take turns posting here with the intent of subtly harassing those of us who do not support the DREAM Act or amnesty for them and their criminal parents.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Of course they are. One by one the Dreamies will take turns posting here with the intent of subtly harassing those of us who do not support the DREAM Act or amnesty for them and their criminal parents.
Funny; said Trolls seem to be leaving me alone.

Although; I am not afraid to use the 'Report' feature as needed
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:28 PM
 
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Funny; said Trolls seem to be leaving me alone.

Although; I am not afraid to use the 'Report' feature as needed
Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:32 PM
 
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May I take the liberty of going back to the OP's question, and make a wild guess of my own? Is it possible that today's 'newbies' (immigrants, legal or not) and their kids are 'doing OK' at assimilating, because we no longer agree on what 'assimilating' even MEANS....nor do we agree anymore that it's particularly important....nor do we hold any kind of consensus as to what 'American culture' is, and therefore are unable to define when anyone has, or has not, 'assimilated'?

After all, a good number of us see almost NO demands that may be put upon ANYONE, newcomer or old, illegal or legal. We recognize almost no 'duties' of a citizen, or a NON-citizen...and we pretty much feel that EVERYONE has a long list of 'rights', sacred and inviolate.

Under THESE circumstances, how does one define how 'the process of assimilation' is going, anyway? The ability to use a cell phone, perhaps? Knowing how to use an ATM? Being cognizant of one's rights in the Social Services field? I'm sure in THIS way, these 'new folks' are doing just fine....and if that's all there is to 'assimilating', then no WONDER they're doing OK.

I'd be doing just FINE in Medical School, as long as there was no homework, no grading, no testing, and no required reading. Just call me "Doctor"....right? When can I pick up that diploma?
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:48 PM
 
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May I take the liberty of going back to the OP's question, and make a wild guess of my own? Is it possible that today's 'newbies' (immigrants, legal or not) and their kids are 'doing OK' at assimilating, because we no longer agree on what 'assimilating' even MEANS....nor do we agree anymore that it's particularly important....nor do we hold any kind of consensus as to what 'American culture' is, and therefore are unable to define when anyone has, or has not, 'assimilated'?

After all, a good number of us see almost NO demands that may be put upon ANYONE, newcomer or old, illegal or legal. We recognize almost no 'duties' of a citizen, or a NON-citizen...and we pretty much feel that EVERYONE has a long list of 'rights', sacred and inviolate.

Under THESE circumstances, how does one define how 'the process of assimilation' is going, anyway? The ability to use a cell phone, perhaps? Knowing how to use an ATM? Being cognizant of one's rights in the Social Services field? I'm sure in THIS way, these 'new folks' are doing just fine....and if that's all there is to 'assimilating', then no WONDER they're doing OK.

I'd be doing just FINE in Medical School, as long as there was no homework, no grading, no testing, and no required reading. Just call me "Doctor"....right? When can I pick up that diploma?
Excellent points! After all, when the bar has been lowered to the point it is barely off the ground, should we still laud those that manage to step over it?
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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Wow, that was quick, you were gone what an hour or two? You didn't give anyone enough time to celebrate your departure.

What happened, did you reconsider after you didn't get the sympathetic response you were hoping for? Man I hate idle threats *struggles to put cork back in vintage bottle of champagne*
What the hell are you talking about? I am not going anywhere if that is what you want me to do.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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They can say,"No Speak-a Eng-a-lish".
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:55 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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these people are paranoid! and have a bunch of conspiracy theories. so to them you are probaly an incarnation of another poster. or maybe you are one with multiple identities. they think you are the same as another poster. thats just one of their conspiracy theories. the others involve civil war in LA. an illegal invasion. and most comical, a take over by mexcians and islamists!!!

and all along only 1 bright individual actually adressed the topic at hand.

interesting.

these folks, involved in mutual masturbation are the only ones who drive these threads. the same 3 posters. all repping each other. stroking eachother.

with that said. its good to see that immigrants are acheiving their dreams. good for them. i applaud all those law abiding citizens who want to better their community. its good to see them and their offspring become productive citizens of this country of ours.

it will only get better.

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What the hell are you talking about? I am not going anywhere if that is what you want me to do.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:09 PM
 
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What the hell are you talking about? I am not going anywhere if that is what you want me to do.
Oh, I thought you left too. That being said, don't get it twisted I could care less what you do as long as you don't bring any of your familia over to suck up anymore of my tax dollars.

Get over yourself, you are nothing more than a poster on a message board to me.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:38 PM
 
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Excellent points! After all, when the bar has been lowered to the point it is barely off the ground, should we still laud those that manage to step over it?
I suppose even 'lowering the bar' has its apologists..right? I mean, at some point, we stop applauding those who excel at "the hurdles",(i.e., "what a SHOWOFF !!"), and begin to turn our attention toward those who are best at "the limbo".(i.e' "Look at the DEXTERITY !!")...

It's all in what we, as a society, decide to value.
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