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Old 05-02-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Pa
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This is mildly amusing, in other topics a lot of the posters are against illegal immigrants because they are breaking the law, and state that they should be punished as any "real" U.S. citizen would be.

Yet, when dealing with Cubans, all of whom, enter legally to the country, they lobby to remove the law that allows them to enter the U.S. legally. This brings the point, are they just afraid about immigration in general and cloak behind the standard of legality when persecuting illegal immigrants. And I wonder who is really more of a U.S. citizen, the one who just happened to be born in the U.S. or the one who had to endure many hardships, and maybe be outside of the law, in order to became a U.S. citizen. Again, maybe they are both the same.

-Kellem
No I believe what many question is that these people are granted legality without having to follow the steps other legal immigrants had imposed upon them. application fees, background checks, biometrics etc. In other words no screening. We as a nation should have the right to screen any and all potential immigrants as well impose what ever standards we deem relevant. Such as proof of ability to support themselves. How if at all are these racist or xenophobic ideals?
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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No I believe what many question is that these people are granted legality without having to follow the steps other legal immigrants had imposed upon them. application fees, background checks, biometrics etc. In other words no screening. We as a nation should have the right to screen any and all potential immigrants as well impose what ever standards we deem relevant. Such as proof of ability to support themselves. How if at all are these racist or xenophobic ideals?
Agreed, additionally, the wet foot, dry foot policy has been in place since 1994, which in addition to allowing Castro to empty his jail cells and the occupants of his mental institutions onto America's soil, has allowed unlimited millions of Cubans to immigrate to this country unchecked. They are in addition to millions more that are being allowed to immigrate to this country annually. Why is it all about those wishing to immigrate to the US at the risk of Americans being totally overrun in our own country? We cannot save the world nor should the world expect us to foot the monumental task of doing so. We have our own criminals, our own issues and a limited amount of resources. At what point do those demanding that they be allowed to come here realize that unchecked populations of illegal and legal immigrants will result in the 3rd world conditions from which they are fleeing?

At what point does it become apparent to the rest of the world that Americans should not be expected to take unlimited numbers of people at the risk of destroying ourselves?

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Old 05-03-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The Shires
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Agreed, additionally, the wet foot, dry foot policy has been in place since 1994, which in addition to allowing Castro to empty his jail cells and the occupants of his mental institutions onto America's soil, has allowed unlimited millions of Cubans to immigrate to this country unchecked. They are in addition to millions more that are being allowed to immigrate to this country annually. Why is it all about those wishing to immigrate to the US at the risk of Americans being totally overrun in our own country? We cannot save the world nor should the world expect us to foot the monumental task of doing so. We have our own criminals, our own issues and a limited amount of resources. At what point do those demanding that they be allowed to come here realize that unchecked populations of illegal and legal immigrants will result in the 3rd world conditions from which they are fleeing?

At what point does it become apparent to the rest of the world that Americans should not be expected to take unlimited numbers of people at the risk of destroying ourselves?
The wet foot, dry foot policy is an archaic relic of the Cold War that needs to be brought to an end. It is never good to have undocumented, unvetted immigrants coming into the US, regardless of where they're from.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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This is mildly amusing, in other topics a lot of the posters are against illegal immigrants because they are breaking the law, and state that they should be punished as any "real" U.S. citizen would be.

Yet, when dealing with Cubans, all of whom, enter legally to the country, they lobby to remove the law that allows them to enter the U.S. legally. This brings the point, are they just afraid about immigration in general and cloak behind the standard of legality when persecuting illegal immigrants. And I wonder who is really more of a U.S. citizen, the one who just happened to be born in the U.S. or the one who had to endure many hardships, and maybe be outside of the law, in order to became a U.S. citizen. Again, maybe they are both the same.

-Kellem
Do you also believe that Haitians who manage to reach our shores should be granted citizenship? After all, they generally arrive by the same mode as Cubans; albeit, there is no wet foot/dry foot provision for them.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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Do you also believe that Haitians who manage to reach our shores should be granted citizenship? After all, they generally arrive by the same mode as Cubans; albeit, there is no wet foot/dry foot provision for them.
See, that would be fairer. Haiti is far more f--ked up than Cuba.
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Old 05-03-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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The wet foot, dry foot policy is an archaic relic of the Cold War that needs to be brought to an end. It is never good to have undocumented, unvetted immigrants coming into the US, regardless of where they're from.
Bravo. I totally agree. Of course there are those who wish to come to this country that proclaim that we are xenophobic. Simply put, I have a son whose future depends on our generation to fix the mess that we as a nation are in as opposed to leaving it and them behind to suffer and endure.
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Old 05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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Agreed, additionally, the wet foot, dry foot policy has been in place since 1994, which in addition to allowing Castro to empty his jail cells and the occupants of his mental institutions onto America's soil, has allowed unlimited millions of Cubans to immigrate to this country unchecked. They are in addition to millions more that are being allowed to immigrate to this country annually. Why is it all about those wishing to immigrate to the US at the risk of Americans being totally overrun in our own country? We cannot save the world nor should the world expect us to foot the monumental task of doing so. We have our own criminals, our own issues and a limited amount of resources. At what point do those demanding that they be allowed to come here realize that unchecked populations of illegal and legal immigrants will result in the 3rd world conditions from which they are fleeing?

At what point does it become apparent to the rest of the world that Americans should not be expected to take unlimited numbers of people at the risk of destroying ourselves?
Write to Ileana and Lincoln Diaz and ask them.
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Old 05-03-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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Write to Ileana and Lincoln Diaz and ask them.
Because
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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Write to Ileana and Lincoln Diaz and ask them.
Those 2 are clowns, especially Diaz-Balart.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Pa
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See, that would be fairer. Haiti is far more f--ked up than Cuba.
Haiti did it to themselves. The other half of the Island seems to be just fine.
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