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Old 08-29-2008, 04:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Looks like you have had a target on your back. I would probably have some resentment and hatred too. but unlike you I fortunately have never been hit by an "illegal". When my apt was hit it was a white american. when my sister idententy was hit it was a white american. I also have never seen anyone driving or walking with a name plate stating they were "illegal". Do we assume every hispanic in school or driving a car or going to the Y is "illegal" I realize if your story is accurate how you would feel but I also do not see any immigrant with a label. They all just look like normal people to me.

I was in the ER a week ago with my son, the room was full of people. My stay in there was 7 hours. One by one everyone went up to the desk and they were asked 2 simple questions to start. Do you speak English and do you have Insurance. Every single person said no and no.

Do you need a formal survey to check Citizenship? Or can you LOGICALLY guess that most if not near all of these people were Illegal Immigrants?
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Of course! Like Malamute said, "If they speak no English and dress like a Mexican, they're probably illegal". I guess that day worker looking guy who had a big accent at the DMV office this morning trying to renew his license was illegal too!
Since one of the requirements of Citizenship is speaking English, and a Govt worker asks if u speak English and you answer no........... you can deduct what?

Come on now noone is that thick skulled.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Looks like you have had a target on your back. I would probably have some resentment and hatred too. but unlike you I fortunately have never been hit by an "illegal". When my apt was hit it was a white american. when my sister idententy was hit it was a white american. I also have never seen anyone driving or walking with a name plate stating they were "illegal". Do we assume every hispanic in school or driving a car or going to the Y is "illegal" I realize if your story is accurate how you would feel but I also do not see any immigrant with a label. They all just look like normal people to me.
The problem is…..he is only one of a multitude of Americans with similar stories. If you can understand his anger, you should be able to understand the anger felt by other victims of illegal aliens across this country. Some have even worse experiences. As unfortunate as his experiences are, thousands have died due to this invasion. Others have had their lives irreparably damaged. Yes, the anger and frustration are warranted.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The problem is…..he is only one of a multitude of Americans with similar stories. If you can understand his anger, you should be able to understand the anger felt by other victims of illegal aliens across this country. Some have even worse experiences. As unfortunate as his experiences are, thousands have died due to this invasion. Others have had their lives irreparably damaged. Yes, the anger and frustration are warranted.
Crime by anyone is bad, it just takes it one step further when you find out it was done by a criminal that isn't even supposed to be in the US. It is double jeapardy.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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oh on this we certainly agree. lets hope the next leader can lead with humility and not get caught up in God mode.
What has this got to do with Illegal Immigration? One way to a path for legalization is joining the military. I actually think that SHOULD be part of the immigration plan, mandetory 2 years of service.

I served, why cannot the Illegals that want to be Americans?[/quote]

because our Gov't won't let them but I am all for it.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I was in the ER a week ago with my son, the room was full of people. My stay in there was 7 hours. One by one everyone went up to the desk and they were asked 2 simple questions to start. Do you speak English and do you have Insurance. Every single person said no and no.

Do you need a formal survey to check Citizenship? Or can you LOGICALLY guess that most if not near all of these people were Illegal Immigrants?
You most assuredly are right. My part of the US I do not see this. Nor do we wait 7 hour in an ER. Thank God for that. But... if you only saw them but did not hear them would you assume they were illegal or just hispanic?
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The problem is…..he is only one of a multitude of Americans with similar stories. If you can understand his anger, you should be able to understand the anger felt by other victims of illegal aliens across this country. Some have even worse experiences. As unfortunate as his experiences are, thousands have died due to this invasion. Others have had their lives irreparably damaged. Yes, the anger and frustration are warranted.
I never said they weren't. I have also known when in AZ the attrocity done to the mexican people. shot, raped, killed etc.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The American government is guilty of many inequities and a few atrocities but what you are claiming has nothing to do with the American government.

We all have choices, all of which have consequences directly or indirectly. The fact that you are an American citizen who CHOSE to marry an illegal alien is a direct consequence of YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

As a result you have numerous options:

1. Leave with your soon to be deported bride;
2. Stay here without your illegal alien bride
3. Divorce your illegal alien bride and get on with your life
4. Once she is deported you can wait for 10 years and petition for her to return to the US.


You really need to take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming American laws and the US government for your choices.

See how easy that is?
I agree line for line..................................you summed it up in a nutshell.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Crime by anyone is bad, it just takes it one step further when you find out it was done by a criminal that isn't even supposed to be in the US. It is double jeapardy.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You most assuredly are right. My part of the US I do not see this. Nor do we wait 7 hour in an ER. Thank God for that. But... if you only saw them but did not hear them would you assume they were illegal or just hispanic?
I would think they were Latino. The first time I was in the ER I just assumed everyone that was Latino in it was an American. My fiance who was Latino thought the same. Funny thing was she doesn't speak a bit of Spanish Her last name is Mascarenas btw and she is smokin hot

Sad she broke my heart and we moved on.
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