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Old 08-31-2008, 04:22 PM
 
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People of all ethnicities, who were proud of their ethnicity have fought and died for this country. Have built this country.
A lot has happened in the 100 years since Roosevelt was around. America wasnt the superpower that it is when he was alive.

I guess that I am not surprised that a proponent of split allegiances such as yourself would have an issue with his quotes. Teddy saw a problem back then and addressed it. The problem is 1000% worse today. No country with a country full of people with split allegiances can maintain superpower status for long. I guess you would also have a problem with "United we stand-Divided we fall".
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Old 08-31-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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People of all ethnicities, who were proud of their ethnicity have fought and died for this country. Have built this country.
A lot has happened in the 100 years since Roosevelt was around. America wasnt the superpower that it is when he was alive.
Wrong.

We are a much more powerful country today.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:04 PM
 
Location: California
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Wrong.

We are a much more powerful country today.
you might want to reread my qoute


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People of all ethnicities, who were proud of their ethnicity have fought and died for this country. Have built this country.
A lot has happened in the 100 years since Roosevelt was around. America wasnt the superpower that it is when he was alive.
But I agree...we are much more powerful today, WITH so many Americans who recognize their ethnicity.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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you might want to reread my qoute




But I agree...we are much more powerful today, WITH so many Americans who recognize their ethnicity.
I was referring to the part of your original quote that I bolded.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:15 PM
 
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I was referring to the part of your original quote that I bolded.
So you disagree that America wasn't as powerful in the time of Roosevelt as it is today?
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So you disagree that America wasn't as powerful in the time of Roosevelt as it is today?
Reread the part of your post that I bolded

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Originally Posted by amc760 View Post
People of all ethnicities, who were proud of their ethnicity have fought and died for this country. Have built this country.
A lot has happened in the 100 years since Roosevelt was around. America wasnt the superpower that it is when he was alive.
Wrong.

We are a much more powerful country today.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:20 PM
 
Location: California
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Reread the part of your post that I bolded



Wrong.

We are a much more powerful country today.
Worded akwardly, but I'm sure you get the point.
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America wasnt(PAST TENSE) the superpower that it is(TODAY)(comma) when he was alive
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Worded akwardly, but I'm sure you get the point.
.
My bad; you did phrase it correctly; I missed the 'past tense' part.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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People of all ethnicities, who were proud of their ethnicity have fought and died for this country. Have built this country.
A lot has happened in the 100 years since Roosevelt was around. America wasnt the superpower that it is when he was alive.
Seriously -- why would someone be "proud" of their ethnicity and which ethnicities are something to be proud of and which are to be ashamed of?

I would think one should be proud of his own accomplishments but how do you derive pride or shame from something like ethnicity that one has no control whatsoever over. And what happens if someone thought they were one ethnicity and that was their source of pride and then with a little research, found out that a particular ancestor came from some place else? Would they then need to feel shame or less pride? So if you are terribly proud of being Mexican and found out you were really Honduran -- then what? Or you found out you were adopted and weren't either but instead are pure European or Middle Eastern -- would you now be ashamed?
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:23 PM
 
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Dialog International: Ben Franklin on "Stupid, Swarthy Germans"

If I'm not mistaken, this is basically ben franklin, a founding father, saying that Germans will not assimilate. Guess what, they assimilated. Who's to say any other group of immigrants will not assimilate?
Ben Franklin was referring to many Hessians who had fought on the British side in the Rev War and never gone home as well as to German immigrants. As well, it was debated in the early years of the country whether to have English or German the offical language ( too bad we didn't write English = official into the Constitution!!)

I am descended from some of those early Germans. My husband is decended from English New Englanders as early as 1630. Everyone assimilated quite well in our families.
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