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Old 08-31-2008, 07:06 AM
 
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The Pope not only chided countries like Mexico for not improving living conditions and opportunities for illegals so they would stay, but he also urged illegals to be aware of “the very grave risks they run in the search to better their conditions” as well as “the duty to follow the law.”

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Old 08-31-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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The Pope not only chided countries like Mexico for not improving living conditions and opportunities for illegals so they would stay, but he also urged illegals to be aware of “the very grave risks they run in the search to better their conditions” as well as “the duty to follow the law.”

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This is nothing more than double speak. What the Pope really needs to do is tell every single priest in America is to stay the hell out of the political arena and to cease advocating amnesty. He should also reiterate the fact that aiding, abetting and harboring illegal aliens is a felony.
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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This is nothing more than double speak. What the Pope really needs to do is tell every single priest in America is to stay the hell out of the political arena and to cease advocating amnesty. He should also reiterate the fact that aiding, abetting and harboring illegal aliens is a felony.
Go Pope! This is more than double speak and sends a message to those priests here that encourage Mexicans to break the laws of this country. It's about time a religious leader stand up to Mexico and tell it to get it's act together. Open borders aren't benefitting either country.
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:48 AM
 
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This is a significant development, considering that most illegals in the United States are Roman Catholics. However, it’s doubtful they will follow the Pope’s admonishment.
No, they will pick and choose, as they do with ALL of our laws. They claim to be such devout Catholics; yet, they will ignore the Pope with a laundry list of justifications -- with the blessings of U.S. Catholic leadership. After all, our laws are unjust. It will be interesting to watch this unfold.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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This coming from the pope is not doublespeak. He means it. Now, it will be interesting to see if the priests and archdiocese follow the order....
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:44 AM
 
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No, they will pick and choose, as they do with ALL of our laws. They claim to be such devout Catholics; yet, they will ignore the Pope with a laundry list of justifications -- with the blessings of U.S. Catholic leadership. After all, our laws are unjust. It will be interesting to watch this unfold.
They will --- but we have to give credit where credit is due. A Pope finally is willing to criticize a Catholic country and tells it to straighten up it's act? It's about time.

Many of the US Catholic leadership however will not listen, they have their own agenda.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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No, they will pick and choose, as they do with ALL of our laws. They claim to be such devout Catholics; yet, they will ignore the Pope with a laundry list of justifications -- with the blessings of U.S. Catholic leadership. After all, our laws are unjust. It will be interesting to watch this unfold.
I am total agreement with you and will believe otherwise when I see it. Until then, IMHO, it's public posturing which results remains to be seen.
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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The POPE over steps his position by even talking about illegal immigration. He needs to mind his own business and perhaps focus on the priests who seem to have a man boy love crisis that just won't quit.
The churches that support Illegals and offer sanctuaries should be raided. Just as if they were harboring any other criminals from justice.
Look mr. former nazi now Mr. Pope. I am sure you turned over a new leaf and all but quite honestly you don't seem to have a clue so how about you stick to what you do know. Preety sure at least not in my bible is there anything written about conduct of illegals.
To you catholics out there no disrespect intended. But the POPE has no business trying to interfere with our business.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:41 PM
 
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The POPE over steps his position by even talking about illegal immigration. He needs to mind his own business and perhaps focus on the priests who seem to have a man boy love crisis that just won't quit.
The churches that support Illegals and offer sanctuaries should be raided. Just as if they were harboring any other criminals from justice.
Look mr. former nazi now Mr. Pope. I am sure you turned over a new leaf and all but quite honestly you don't seem to have a clue so how about you stick to what you do know. Preety sure at least not in my bible is there anything written about conduct of illegals.
To you catholics out there no disrespect intended. But the POPE has no business trying to interfere with our business.
I unequivocally agree. Unless they want to revoke their tax exempt status, those priests need to heed the warning of the pope and keep their politically, financially and sexually motivated reasons for encouraging, aiding and abetting illegal immigration out of the religious arena.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:03 PM
 
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The Pope is closer to the words and style of Jesus with this when Jesus said "render unto to Ceasar what is Ceasars", and did not suggest his followers go around breaking the law.

I think it's a very good move.
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