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Old 02-06-2007, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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they come here becasuse they know theywont be forced to pay real taxes or medical care, they can save money to go back home and retire. You have no argument. There are poor people everywhere. It should matter more that our own are in need. What you are saying is that they are more worthy than we.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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they come here becasuse they know theywont be forced to pay real taxes or medical care, they can save money to go back home and retire. You have no argument. There are poor people everywhere. It should matter more that our own are in need. What you are saying is that they are more worthy than we.

It seems they care more about these illegals then an American Citizen, that's how I'm taking it, since they've stated it numerous times.

How very sad, we can't even take care of our own, yet there's some out there that accept the fact these people come here - illegally and get to take advantage - don't pay taxes, drive illegally, steal, etc, etc, etc.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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It seems they care more about these illegals then an American Citizen, that's how I'm taking it, since they've stated it numerous times.

How very sad, we can't even take care of our own, yet there's some out there that accept the fact these people come here - illegally and get to take advantage - don't pay taxes, drive illegally, steal, etc, etc, etc.
I know, it is just wrong that "americans" would think others are more worthy than our own. I have been to Mexico, sure there is poverty, but not ALL that come here are starving, I see them they look fine crossing the border, alot are here to rip us off. People just cannot face that.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:30 PM
 
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I know, it is just wrong that "americans" would think others are more worthy than our own. I have been to Mexico, sure there is poverty, but not ALL that come here are starving, I see them they look fine crossing the border, alot are here to rip us off. People just cannot face that.
If they are working for less than minimum wage..... then that rip off
goes both ways. Now that...... I can face. Oh, and
no one was saying they were more worthy. Just because we have compassion for
some you don't, doesn't mean we don't have compassion for all. What's with
the "American's" in quotations... I resent that. I'm an American who pays my
taxes... and I pay for welfare and food stamps etc..just like you do. And...
I've never used any of the above. Just because I have some compassion doesn't make
me less of an American... it makes me More of one.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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If they are working for less than minimum wage..... then that rip off
goes both ways. Now that...... I can face. Oh, and
no one was saying they were more worthy. Just because we have compassion for
some you don't, doesn't mean we don't have compassion for all.
Sorry but he was saying he would hire a desperate illegal over a desperate american, so yes he is saying they are more worthy. when did I say I didnt sympothize with them? Reading more into it again are we? They agree to be ripped off, nobody is forcing them to take it.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:41 PM
 
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Sorry but he was saying he would hire a desperate illegal over a desperate american, so yes he is saying they are more worthy. when did I say I didnt sympothize with them? Reading more into it again are we? They agree to be ripped off, nobody is forcing them to take it.
And no one is forcing people to hire them. Again,
two edged sword, only the one edge is complained
about PRIMARILY... I'm not saying you specifically.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:46 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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The poor people of the United States do not suffer in the degree that poor people of Mexico do. If you are intent on drawing a parallel, how can you blame illegal immigrants crossing the border looking for better work, just like a poor American would?
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:48 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Sammie, we do not care about illegals more than American Citizens. We are trying to end the disrespect and misunderstanding of illegal immigrants.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:50 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Nea, no one comes to a country looking to be secured in health care, or any other benefits. The payment of a job is why people come here, people desiring a better life based on economic reasons is why people come here.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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Sammie, we do not care about illegals more than American Citizens. We are trying to end the disrespect and misunderstanding of illegal immigrants.

Too true. but honestly....
I think you'd have more luck selling dental floss at a Willie Nelson
concert than that idea to this group.
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