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Old 12-08-2008, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No, Benicar. I was referring to people who hijack planes and blow up buildings. That would be my definition of a terrorist. Not an orange picker.

And it is too easy to cross, I agree.
Are you suggesting that only those capable of hijacking planes and exploding buildings can be terrorists and exact death and destruction on the citizens of this country? Have you not heard of an IED (Improvised Explosive Device), chemical warfare, or suicide bombers? Do you not realize our porous borders have facilitated easy entry for terrorists or anyone with the desire to cause us harm?

BTW, an “orange picker” can also be a terrorist. Does the term “sleeper cell” ring a bell?
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:53 PM
 
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No, Benicar. I was referring to people who hijack planes and blow up buildings. That would be my definition of a terrorist. Not an orange picker.

And it is too easy to cross, I agree.

The fact is that the anti-immigration crowd are so desperate that they will associate orange pickers with just about anything.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The fact is that the anti-immigration crowd are so desperate that they will associate orange pickers with just about anything.
Actually I associate illegals with common criminals. For that is what they infact are for the most part. Those who commit more serious crimes like murder, theft, and rape would be more like violent criminals. Orange pickers who are here legally get a thank you and I support their presence.
Big difference between legal migrant workers and and the criminals who sneak accross the border without a valid visa. Sort of like the difference between employers who pay a fair wage and those who hire illegals and pocket the profit.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The fact is that the anti-immigration crowd are so desperate that they will associate orange pickers with just about anything.
Desperate?

You pro illegal alien fans are losing the battle. As the economy tightens; it will be more and 'open season' on illegal aliens and their enablers by law enforcement.

Hell: even President-elect Obama is showing signs of being much more to the 'right' than first thought. Much to the chagrin of the extremist left wingers.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:18 PM
 
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Are you suggesting that only those capable of hijacking planes and exploding buildings can be terrorists and exact death and destruction on the citizens of this country? Have you not heard of an IED (Improvised Explosive Device), chemical warfare, or suicide bombers? Do you not realize our porous borders have facilitated easy entry for terrorists or anyone with the desire to cause us harm?

BTW, an “orange picker” can also be a terrorist. Does the term “sleeper cell” ring a bell?
There are sleeper cells of orange pickers?

No, seriously, obviously all of those things you mentioned (except the orange picker) are exactly what I was referring to. I've said it before in other threads. I just don't want my words twisted by someone as my having said that all migrants are terrorists.

But as long as we hand out student visas to hijackers, as we did for the 9/11 terrorists, I guess they won't have to worry about sneaking across the border.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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There are sleeper cells of orange pickers?

No, seriously, obviously all of those things you mentioned (except the orange picker) are exactly what I was referring to. I've said it before in other threads. I just don't want my words twisted by someone as my having said that all migrants are terrorists.

But as long as we hand out student visas to hijackers, as we did for the 9/11 terrorists, I guess they won't have to worry about sneaking across the border.
Perhaps if you re-read my post you will gain clarity. I did not state that orange pickers are sleeper cells. I said an orange picker can be a terrorist. As a matter of fact, anyone can be a terrorist. They don’t exactly display a large T on their clothing. Who would have thought a group of ‘students’ would be involved with the attacks on 9/11?

Relax, I also did not remotely imply that you said all migrants are terrorists.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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Perhaps if you re-read my post you will gain clarity. I did not state that orange pickers are sleeper cells. I said an orange picker can be a terrorist. As a matter of fact, anyone can be a terrorist. They don’t exactly display a large T on their clothing. Who would have thought a group of ‘students’ would be involved with the attacks on 9/11?

Relax, I also did not remotely imply that you said all migrants are terrorists.
I know you didn't.

And anyone can be a terrorist. Look at Timothy McVeigh. Honor student, Gulf War vet, Bronze Star recipient...
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:55 PM
 
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Perhaps if you re-read my post you will gain clarity. I did not state that orange pickers are sleeper cells. I said an orange picker can be a terrorist. As a matter of fact, anyone can be a terrorist. They don’t exactly display a large T on their clothing. Who would have thought a group of ‘students’ would be involved with the attacks on 9/11?

Relax, I also did not remotely imply that you said all migrants are terrorists.
I know you didn't.

And anyone can be a terrorist. Look at Timothy McVeigh. Honor student, Gulf War vet, Bronze Star recipient...
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I know you didn't.

And anyone can be a terrorist. Look at Timothy McVeigh. Honor student, Gulf War vet, Bronze Star recipient...
That’s precisely my point. Anyone.
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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That’s precisely my point. Anyone.
off topic
The people here in Oklahoma don't even want to talk about the Oklahoma City Bombing.
I found this out when I moved here from SoCal.
People are either still upset or still confused about it today.
I mention on another thread that I lived just So, of OKC.

back to the topic
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