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Old 09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
 
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Doesn't Mexico have a mestizo President? Venezuela has a partially Black president?
And as I recall, Mexico has already had an indigenous president.
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:27 PM
 
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That's not entirely true....

"They now found themselves opposed to a new kind of human being who waged war à outrance, inspired by a terrifying religion which enabled them to use treachery, hypocrisy, cruelty, torture, and massacre in the name of a God of Love; who were indifferent to the suffering they inflicted and superhumanly stoical in bearing suffering which their own conduct entailed for themselves..."

Atahualpa, Pizarro and the Fall of the Inca Empire (http://www.millersville.edu/~columbus/papers/white.html - broken link)
How does this equate to them being driven off their land and killed? Yes, the Spanish used excessive force to shove the language, religion, and culture down the indians throats.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:09 PM
 
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And as I recall, Mexico has already had an indigenous president.
Benito Juarez?
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:21 PM
 
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How does this equate to them being driven off their land and killed? Yes, the Spanish used excessive force to shove the language, religion, and culture down the indians throats.
mas·sa·cre [mas-uh-ker] noun, verb, -cred, -cring.
–noun 1. the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.
2. a general slaughter, as of persons or animals: the massacre of millions during the war.
3. Informal. a crushing defeat, esp. in sports.
–verb (used with object) 4. to kill unnecessarily and indiscriminately, esp. a large number of persons.


You were saying?
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:51 PM
 
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And as I recall, Mexico has already had an indigenous president.
Benito Pablo Juárez García was a Zapotec Amerindian who served five terms[1] (1858–1861 as interim), (1861–1865), (1865–1867), (1867–1871), and (1871–1872), as President of Mexico. For resisting the French occupation, overthrowing the Empire, and restoring the Republic, as well as for his efforts to modernize the country, Juárez is often regarded as Mexico's greatest and most beloved leader. As the first Mexican leader who did not have a military background, Benito Juárez was also the first full-blooded indigenous national to serve as President of Mexico and to lead a country in the Western Hemisphere in over 300 years.

Benito Juárez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:41 PM
 
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Benito Juarez?
Also Juan Nepomuceno Almonte, who was Amerindian on his moms side, and Mestizo/African on his dad's side.

And Vicente Guerrero, Mexicos second president who was of Mestizo/African ancestry as well.

I don't know all(or even many) Mexican presidents, but I'm sure theres at least a few Mestizos in there I dont know about.


But yeah, Benito Juarez is very popular. A beloved national hero. Pretty surprising for "white supremacist" Mexico. But hey, they do have a lot of blonde girls on novelas.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:08 PM
 
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mas·sa·cre [mas-uh-ker] noun, verb, -cred, -cring.
–noun 1. the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.
2. a general slaughter, as of persons or animals: the massacre of millions during the war.
3. Informal. a crushing defeat, esp. in sports.
–verb (used with object) 4. to kill unnecessarily and indiscriminately, esp. a large number of persons.


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As far as I know the Spanish didn't "massacre" the indians. Unlike the English: Wounded Knee, Mabila, Acoma, Jamestown, Pamunkey, Mystic, English massacre of Sleeping village, Lachine.. and the list goes on.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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Benito Pablo Juárez García was a Zapotec Amerindian who served five terms[1] (1858–1861 as interim), (1861–1865), (1865–1867), (1867–1871), and (1871–1872), as President of Mexico. For resisting the French occupation, overthrowing the Empire, and restoring the Republic, as well as for his efforts to modernize the country, Juárez is often regarded as Mexico's greatest and most beloved leader. As the first Mexican leader who did not have a military background, Benito Juárez was also the first full-blooded indigenous national to serve as President of Mexico and to lead a country in the Western Hemisphere in over 300 years.

Benito Juárez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thank you.. I guess. Yes it was Benito Juarez and as mentioned by amc, a bit more were of Indian, Spanish and African decent. Looks like Mexico beat the U.S for the "Black guy" for president
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:29 PM
 
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Thank you.. I guess. Yes it was Benito Juarez and as mentioned by amc, a bit more were of Indian, Spanish and African decent. Looks like Mexico beat the U.S for the "Black guy" for president
Don't tell that to MEChA-----------they would gag.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:30 PM
 
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Benito Pablo Juárez García was a Zapotec Amerindian who served five terms[1] (1858–1861 as interim), (1861–1865), (1865–1867), (1867–1871), and (1871–1872), as President of Mexico. For resisting the French occupation, overthrowing the Empire, and restoring the Republic, as well as for his efforts to modernize the country, Juárez is often regarded as Mexico's greatest and most beloved leader. As the first Mexican leader who did not have a military background, Benito Juárez was also the first full-blooded indigenous national to serve as President of Mexico and to lead a country in the Western Hemisphere in over 300 years.

Benito Juárez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And Juarez Circle in Wash DC was named in Benito's honor.
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