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Old 09-05-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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76 Percent of Those Detained in Nationís Largest Criminal Immigration Operation Already Convicted of Criminal Wrongdoing

The final breakdown of the criminal cases are as follows:

- 230 were sentenced to five months in prison and three additional years of supervision for using identification that belonged to another person to obtain employment.
- 30 were sentenced to five months in prison and three additional years of supervision for using a Social Security number or card that belonged to another person to obtain employment.
- 8 were sentenced to five months in prison and three additional years of supervision for illegal entry into the United States.
- 2 were sentenced to 12 months and one day in prison and three additional years of supervision for using identification that belonged to another person to obtain employment.
- 21 were sentenced to five years of probation for using completely fake identification to obtain employment.
- 2 were sentenced to five years of probation for using completely fake Social Security numbers or cards.
- 4 were sentenced to five years of probation for illegal reentry into the United States.
- Of the 297 individuals sentenced, the vast majority ó 248 or 83.5 percent ó came from Guatemala. There were also 48 individuals (16.2 percent) who came from Mexico and one man from the Ukraine.

Although the vast majority of criminal prosecutions has been completed, Arnold made a point of noting that the investigation, led by ICE, is ongoing. An official in the U.S. Attorneyís Office also indicated that the investigation remains open.
http://iowaindependent.com/2366/postville-aftermath-302-detainees-charged-criminally-297-plead-gu


Wow . . .just wow
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:13 AM
 
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Are you really that surprised? you post articles like this everyday.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:35 AM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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I'm not doing the sauce thing or taking drugs, but something does not smell right. People are getting 5 months of jail time and 3 yrs of supervision for entering the US illegally. Does that mean they can stay in the US after serving the 5 months in jail so we can supervise them??????. I have a better idea. Sentence those people to 6 months jail time (suspended if they return to country of origin), and if they return illegally then they will serve 1 yr jail time and deportation. Steve
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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Are you really that surprised? you post articles like this everyday.
She is surprised that they are actually being given prison time, as opposed to a Free I.D. Card, Free Food, and Free Housing on the taxpayers dime, like in San Francisco.


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Old 09-05-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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I'm not doing the sauce thing or taking drugs, but something does not smell right. People are getting 5 months of jail time and 3 yrs of supervision for entering the US illegally. Does that mean they can stay in the US after serving the 5 months in jail so we can supervise them??????. I have a better idea. Sentence those people to 6 months jail time (suspended if they return to country of origin), and if they return illegally then they will serve 1 yr jail time and deportation. Steve
Don't worry. The supervision does not prevent them from being deported. The reason for the courts ALSO giving probation is in case it is later discovered one of them is here legally. But I can see how at first glance the wording is confusing.

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Old 09-05-2008, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm not doing the sauce thing or taking drugs, but something does not smell right. People are getting 5 months of jail time and 3 yrs of supervision for entering the US illegally. Does that mean they can stay in the US after serving the 5 months in jail so we can supervise them??????. I have a better idea. Sentence those people to 6 months jail time (suspended if they return to country of origin), and if they return illegally then they will serve 1 yr jail time and deportation. Steve
I see I'm not the only one smelling something rancid. Why arenít these people being immediately processed for deportation? They are all illegal aliens, and most are guilty of some form of identity theft or fraud. This is simply a slap on the wrist, and is certainly not a deterrent for other illegals. Itís absolutely ridiculous!
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:11 AM
 
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I see I'm not the only one smelling something rancid. Why arenít these people being immediately processed for deportation? They are all illegal aliens, and most are guilty of some form of identity theft or fraud. This is simply a slap on the wrist, and is certainly not a deterrent for other illegals. Itís absolutely ridiculous!
That's all the Government can give- coming to the U.S illegally isn't a "big offense" unless deported for a second time at which it becomes a felony.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wow
5 months of cable tv and hot meals. That is pretty harsh don't you think?
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Pa
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That's all the Government can give- coming to the U.S illegally isn't a "big offense" unless deported for a second time at which it becomes a felony.
Time tochange the law tomake the first offense a felony.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:18 AM
 
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She is surprised that they are actually being given prison time, as opposed to a Free I.D. Card, Free Food, and Free Housing on the taxpayers dime, like in San Francisco.


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Agreed. Unfortunately, like Benicar, I smell a rat.
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