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Old 09-07-2008, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Ah yes. There is a difference between spewing out racism and just being racist in the back of your mind. You should really check out the article I sent you.
Please enlighten me on your interpretation of that difference. I don't need to ‘check out’ your article, I have already read it, and myriad others. Save your Psych 101 articles for someone who doesn't have a degree in Psychology.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:32 PM
 
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Of course. He has 'baggage' that spoils any argument he might make. It would be far better if he were replaced by a more 'neutral' party, for sure.
Oh there are more neutral organizations in his network for that sole reason.

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On the demographic point: perhaps this is the first instance in which those with their pants up are going to get caught by those with their pants down!"[6]
After the media published the memo, several prominent members of U.S. English cut their ties with the organization, including advisory board member Walter Cronkite and executive director Linda Chavez. Tanton himself eventually resigned, although he complained that he had been smeared as a racist.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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On the demographic point: perhaps this is the first instance in which those with their pants up are going to get caught by those with their pants down!"
Is this not a TRUE statement? Distasteful or not, it certainly seems to be accurate.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:58 PM
 
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Is this not a TRUE statement? Distasteful or not, it certainly seems to be accurate.
Even though Hispanic birthrates declined? Let the data speak for itself rather than blatant generalizations.

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The report found that the birthrate was higher for some demographics. For example, Hispanic women still have an average of 2.3 children by the time they reach their forties. The number is higher than the national average, which has dropped from 3.1 to 1.9 over the past 30 years. The shift in birthrate may have implications for the population at large. The census bureau also recently issued a report predicting that by 2042, minorities will compose the majority of the United States population
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The average U.S. woman produces 1.9 children, but broken down by ethnicity, the numbers are 1.7 for Asian-Americans, 1.8 for non-Hispanic whites, 2.0 for blacks and 2.3 for Hispanics. American Indians weren't included in the report. The fertility rates are sufficient, combined with immigration, to keep the U.S. population growing.
Here is a chart concluding Mexico's fertility rate:

http://indexmundi.com/mexico/total_fertility_rate.html

2008 2.37 111 -0.84 % 2008 est.
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The statement was made in 1986, and in looking at our population growth and demographics from that time until now, the man seems to be prophetic.

From the NY Times...

Latino Population Growth Is Widespread, Study Says
Latino Population Growth Is Widespread, Study Says - New York Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9904E1D81E38F932A05754C0A9649C8B 63 - broken link)
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:14 PM
 
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The statement was made in 1986, and in looking at our population growth and demographics from that time until now, the man seems to be prophetic.

From the NY Times...

Latino Population Growth Is Widespread, Study Says
Latino Population Growth Is Widespread, Study Says - New York Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9904E1D81E38F932A05754C0A9649C8B 63 - broken link)
Yes, latino immigrants are coming more often than of any other country. That doesn't have to do with birth rate.
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, latino immigrants are coming more often than of any other country. That doesn't have to do with birth rate.
So what was the birthrate for immigrants in 1986?
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Not only do I find some parts disturbing in this memo, describing the "Latin onslaught." I also find that him, being a white supremacist, co-founding/funding major anti-immigrant websites and information websites.. CIS, FAIR for example are the major ones.
Not so terribly long ago in our history: 'White' supremacists looked with askance at the Irish, Italians and Eastern Euros----------never mind that some of them were Nordic White in appearance.

OTOH: in the Jim Crow South; many states counted ethnic Chinese and Japanese as 'White' as well----------the Mestizo children of Cheng and Eng Bunker AKA the original Siamese Twins were counted as 'White' in the 1860 US Census.
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:33 PM
 
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Yes, latino immigrants are coming more often than of any other country. That doesn't have to do with birth rate.
Here's what I've found so far...

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Analysis of Hispanic birth data for 22 states in 1980 showed the following: (1) The fertility rate for Hispanic women was 95.4 births per 1.000 women aged 15-44; this rate was 53 percent higher than the rate for non-Hispanic Whites and five percent higher than for non-Hispanic Blacks. (2) Age-specific birth rates indicated that the fertility of Hispanic women was higher than that of non-Hispanics at age 20 and older. (3) Mothers of Mexican and Puerto Rican origin were younger than White non-Hispanics and older than Black non-Hispanics. (4) Associated with the high rates of childbearing at relatively young ages was the tendency toward larger families. (5) Nearly one-quarter of all Hispanic births were to unmarried mothers and the rate of childbearing by unmarried Hispanic mothers was nearly twice the rate for unmarried non-Hispanics. (6) Hispanic mothers had generally completed fewer years of schooling than non-Hispanics. (7) Hispanic mothers, except Cubans, began prenatal care at a later state of pregnancy than non-Hispanics. (8) The incidence of low birth weight among babies born to Hispanic mothers was generally comparable to that for babies born to White non-Hispanics.
That was in 1980...

In looking at the CDC site, I found an interesting .pdf that illustrates the differences in birthrate by ethnicity from 1990 to 1995. Check it out for yourself...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/statab/...vol1_04%20.pdf
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:34 PM
 
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However the stats I provided are up-to-date. To 1995? cmon.
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