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Old 09-07-2008, 12:43 AM
 
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YouTube - Behind The Veil: America's Anti-Immigration Network

This is the memo the video is talking about, a series of leaked memos. Latin onslaught?!

SPLCenter.org: Memo to WITAN IV Attendees from John Tanton

Pretty hard to believe this is fake.

Although I do believe that we must control the population by letting in less immigrants and opposed to illegal immigration, why this extra bull ****? Latin onslaught? Latino catholics having more babies than whites will be the death of the white race?? These are the kind of shennegans that make pro-illegal's cry out racism. So in essence yes, this is why pro-illegal arguments are centered around anti-illegals being racist.
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:01 AM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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What about these posts bothers you exactly? There are people in this country who think this is a problem. Considering the fact that whites will be a minority in the USA in 2042, I can see their point. There is already competition between latinos and blacks for housing and jobs. What's your point? So you're offended, so what.
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Old 09-07-2008, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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XI. Additional Demographic Items.

Teitelbaum’s phrase, "A region of low-native fertility combined with high immigration of high-fertility people does not make for compatible trend lines!"

Finally, this is all obviously dangerous territory, but the problem is not going to go away. Who can open it up? The question is analogous to Nixon’s opening of China: he could do it, Hubert Humphrey could not have. Similarly, the issues we’re touching on here must be broached by liberals. The conservatives simply cannot do it without tainting the whole subject.

I think the answers to many of these questions depend on how well people assimilate. This, in turn, depends heavily on whether the parent society has made up its mind that assimilation is a good thing (we’re confused on this point now), whether it works at assimilating newcomers (as Canada and Australia do by following them longitudinally), whether the people coming want to assimilate (not all of them do), and, even if all the factors are favorable, whether the numbers are small enough so as not to overwhelm the assimilative process.

Good luck to us all!
This is the last item on the 'memo'. For being 22 years old, it seems that Mr. Tanton was a little prescient.

What EXACTLY do you find so disturbing in this 'memo'? Please feel free to C&P to illustrate your point.

Last edited by GuyPinestra; 09-07-2008 at 07:58 AM.. Reason: Added a question at the end
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And; why in the hell do so many Mestizo Hispanics self identify as 'Latin' anyway?

The original Latins (Romans) were probably White.
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:35 AM
 
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YouTube - Behind The Veil: America's Anti-Immigration Network

This is the memo the video is talking about, a series of leaked memos. Latin onslaught?!

SPLCenter.org: Memo to WITAN IV Attendees from John Tanton

Pretty hard to believe this is fake.

Although I do believe that we must control the population by letting in less immigrants and opposed to illegal immigration, why this extra bull ****? Latin onslaught? Latino catholics having more babies than whites will be the death of the white race?? These are the kind of shennegans that make pro-illegal's cry out racism. So in essence yes, this is why pro-illegal arguments are centered around anti-illegals being racist.

Having baby after baby with no education, no marriage, no job skills is what got their country in the shape it's in.

Of course we need to be concerned about that, right now everything is fine because there are still enough Americans to provide them the free health care, food stamps, WIC and so on but what happens when the critical ratio is reached? Then California will be just like Mexico. Welfare programs will collapse and then what?

Think about it -- if Mexicans stayed in Mexico which is the 12th richest nation in the world, but would stay in school, many finish college, find a job that could support a family, marry and limit family size to the number of children they could afford, would there be this "need" for unlimited immigration?

People in other countries do this. They don't start having babies at age 14 or 15, they don't have a baby every year. They don't prove their machismo by how many children they sire.
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Having baby after baby with no education, no marriage, no job skills is what got their country in the shape it's in.

Of course we need to be concerned about that, right now everything is fine because there are still enough Americans to provide them the free health care, food stamps, WIC and so on but what happens when the critical ratio is reached? Then California will be just like Mexico. Welfare programs will collapse and then what?

Think about it -- if Mexicans stayed in Mexico which is the 12th richest nation in the world, but would stay in school, many finish college, find a job that could support a family, marry and limit family size to the number of children they could afford, would there be this "need" for unlimited immigration?

People in other countries do this. They don't start having babies at age 14 or 15, they don't have a baby every year. They don't prove their machismo by how many children they sire.
The party may be coming to an end in California: the official unemployment rate there is now 7.3%.
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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YouTube - Behind The Veil: America's Anti-Immigration Network

This is the memo the video is talking about, a series of leaked memos. Latin onslaught?!

SPLCenter.org: Memo to WITAN IV Attendees from John Tanton

Pretty hard to believe this is fake.

Although I do believe that we must control the population by letting in less immigrants and opposed to illegal immigration, why this extra bull ****? Latin onslaught? Latino catholics having more babies than whites will be the death of the white race?? These are the kind of shennegans that make pro-illegal's cry out racism. So in essence yes, this is why pro-illegal arguments are centered around anti-illegals being racist.
in less than 6 weeks... since you have changed-name/joined, you have posted
over 1300 times.. WOW.. you must really like trying to defend your illegal mexican
friends... lol!

you should have stuck with your original member name.. suits you..
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:55 AM
 
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I won't pretend that talk of preserving the 'white race' doesn't bother me...it does. Frankly, it skeeves me out.
But no more so then when la raza and mecha celebrate the oncoming 'brownization' of the usa.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong.
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I won't pretend that talk of preserving the 'white race' doesn't bother me...it does. Frankly, it skeeves me out.
But no more so then when la raza and mecha celebrate the oncoming 'brownization' of the usa.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong.
And; the White Hispanics would be caught in the crossfire due to their general contempt for the Mestizos.

Definite lose-lose situation.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Pretty hard to believe this is fake.

Although I do believe that we must control the population by letting in less immigrants and opposed to illegal immigration, why this extra bull ****? Latin onslaught? Latino catholics having more babies than whites will be the death of the white race?? These are the kind of shennegans that make pro-illegal's cry out racism. So in essence yes, this is why pro-illegal arguments are centered around anti-illegals being racist.
Iím confused, Californio. Didnít you argue that ALL people are inherently racist? Why should racism even be an issue with you? According to your premise, arenít these people simply behaving as "normal" people should? Why do you now condemn behavior you supported last night as being normal?
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