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Old 09-08-2008, 09:02 AM
 
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In other words, if strangers decided to make your home their place of residence, you would have no problem renovating your home to add additional living space to accommodate them? Somehow, I doubt you would be so generous.
That's different, and you KNOW it. Your home belongs to YOU....but America belongs to EVERYBODY. (I KNOW, it doesn't sound totally convincing...but that's what I'm told...and the facts DO seem to back it up.)...
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's different, and you KNOW it. Your home belongs to YOU....but America belongs to EVERYBODY. (I KNOW, it doesn't sound totally convincing...but that's what I'm told...and the facts DO seem to back it up.)...
Pardon me. I do have a bad habit of forgetting that salient point. Whatís wrong with me?!?!?!
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:19 AM
 
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Pardon me. I do have a bad habit of forgetting that salient point. Whatís wrong with me?!?!?!
Nothing that a little 're-education' wouldn't solve. You're going to have to quit seeing illegal immigration as a problem, and begin looking at it as an opportunity for 'change'. Try it...and you MAY like it !!!....
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Pa
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That's different, and you KNOW it. Your home belongs to YOU....but America belongs to EVERYBODY. (I KNOW, it doesn't sound totally convincing...but that's what I'm told...and the facts DO seem to back it up.)...
By everybody I am sure that you mean all US Citizens. That would make Benicar's analogy accurate.
Allow me to elaborate even more. They sneak in= break in to our country. Just like as if you didn't lock the door on your house. Someone entering without permission is considered breaking in.
One in the intruder demands that you change your home to better suit their needs. Would you? Or would you call the police to have them arrested? I would shoot them if they entered my home illegally. But they have entered our home the USA and now are demanding that we make exceptions for them, change laws for them and even demand that we hire spanish speaking teachers to facilitate them. Now I don't want toshoot illegals, or see them harmed. That is unless they are commiting violent crimes. In which case guns blazing.
The point is they have invaded our home. OUR country. They do demand special treatment and they are infact harming US ciizens both financially and in too many cases physically. We the owners of the USA its legal citizens demand that those who violate our rights, or home, our nation be sent home.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:25 AM
 
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Nothing that a little 're-education' wouldn't solve. You're going to have to quit seeing illegal immigration as a problem, and begin looking at it as an opportunity for 'change'. Try it...and you MAY like it !!!....
Ah, thanks! Reading your sage words has already begun to give me a feeling of ďchange.Ē As a matter of fact, I am changing more and more as I type this post. How can I ever repay you for saving me from myself?
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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By everybody I am sure that you mean all US Citizens. That would make Benicar's analogy accurate.
Allow me to elaborate even more. They sneak in= break in to our country. Just like as if you didn't lock the door on your house. Someone entering without permission is considered breaking in.
One in the intruder demands that you change your home to better suit their needs. Would you? Or would you call the police to have them arrested? I would shoot them if they entered my home illegally. But they have entered our home the USA and now are demanding that we make exceptions for them, change laws for them and even demand that we hire spanish speaking teachers to facilitate them. Now I don't want toshoot illegals, or see them harmed. That is unless they are commiting violent crimes. In which case guns blazing.
The point is they have invaded our home. OUR country. They do demand special treatment and they are infact harming US ciizens both financially and in too many cases physically. We the owners of the USA its legal citizens demand that those who violate our rights, or home, our nation be sent home.
Hear! Hear!
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:34 AM
 
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By everybody I am sure that you mean all US Citizens. That would make Benicar's analogy accurate.
Allow me to elaborate even more. They sneak in= break in to our country. Just like as if you didn't lock the door on your house. Someone entering without permission is considered breaking in.
One in the intruder demands that you change your home to better suit their needs. Would you? Or would you call the police to have them arrested? I would shoot them if they entered my home illegally. But they have entered our home the USA and now are demanding that we make exceptions for them, change laws for them and even demand that we hire spanish speaking teachers to facilitate them. Now I don't want toshoot illegals, or see them harmed. That is unless they are commiting violent crimes. In which case guns blazing.
The point is they have invaded our home. OUR country. They do demand special treatment and they are infact harming US ciizens both financially and in too many cases physically. We the owners of the USA its legal citizens demand that those who violate our rights, or home, our nation be sent home.
I realize all this. But what if someone broke into your home, and offered to paint your bathroom, or help with the laundry? It would be OK then...wouldn't it? If the trespassers were 'nice' trespassers?

BTW, no, when I say "America belongs to everybody", I don't mean only US citizens...I mean EVERYBODY. Just ask the Statue of Liberty...she'll back me up....(sarcasm button on 'high')...
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:36 AM
 
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I realize all this. But what if someone broke into your home, and offered to paint your bathroom, or help with the laundry? It would be OK then...wouldn't it? If the trespassers were 'nice' trespassers?
But were they offering to paint for "free"? Or did you have to pay for their housing, food, and other expenses while they stayed there to paint? Wouldn't it have been cheaper and better to hire a painter just to do the job?
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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But were they offering to paint for "free"? Or did you have to pay for their housing, food, and other expenses while they stayed their to paint? Wouldn't it have been cheaper and better to hire a painter just to do the job?
I don't know..it's all so confusing. Last year I had a plumber in my home for two days. I paid him, he left, and has never returned. So even though he 'came here to help me', he apparently feels no claim to actually LIVE here.

This is all VERY hard to 'sort out'....
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:47 AM
 
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But were they offering to paint for "free"? Or did you have to pay for their housing, food, and other expenses while they stayed there to paint? Wouldn't it have been cheaper and better to hire a painter just to do the job?
Indeed, it would have been cheaper. However, according to pro-illegals, it would not have been "humane".
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