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Old 09-07-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Hasnt he been effective in completely disrupting the Arellano-Felix organization?
All this violence is a power play because the cartels are really getting shook.
I think Mexico is going to be going through some changes in the coming years. It might get a little crazy before then, but things are changing.

The Mexican people have been taken advantage of for hundreds of years, and theyre getting tired of it. Ive been keeping up on the news, and its pretty evident.
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Yes your correct but it some say because he want's his chosen trusted officials running the drug trade.

Some in Mexico call it the Calderon Cartel lol.
You could be correct but perhaps looking at Mexico's political history like all Latin American politicians I have become jaded.

The woman at work hates him but she is no expert her opinion as valid as yours .
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:36 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes your correct but it some say because he want's his chosen trusted officials running the drug trade.

Some in Mexico call it the Calderon Cartel lol.
You could be correct but perhaps looking at Mexico's political history like all Latin American politicians I have become jaded.

The woman at work hates him but she is no expert her opinion as valid as yours .
Its hard to gain people's trust with the long history Mexico has of getting screwed over by its leaders.
With all Mexico has been through, theyre going to have a hard time trusting any kind of authority.

I'm not saying Calderon is Mexico's white knight, but he's shaking things up down there. With all the outbreaks of violence, you can tell he's really p_issing off the cartels, and to me thats a good sign.

I don't think Calderon is going to be the one to change the country though. I think its the new generation of Mexicans that are going to break the status quo.
I read an interesting story today about the Mexican legal revolution starting up. People wanting to break the cycle of corruption.

Its going to take a lot of bravery to go against the powers that be, but I think the Mexican people can do it. I hope the young people who are growing up in this new Mexico will be the ones to improve the country in the future.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Its hard to gain people's trust with the long history Mexico has of getting screwed over by its leaders.
With all Mexico has been through, theyre going to have a hard time trusting any kind of authority.

I'm not saying Calderon is Mexico's white knight, but he's shaking things up down there. With all the outbreaks of violence, you can tell he's really p_issing off the cartels, and to me thats a good sign.

I don't think Calderon is going to be the one to change the country though. I think its the new generation of Mexicans that are going to break the status quo.
I read an interesting story today about the Mexican legal revolution starting up. People wanting to break the cycle of corruption.

Its going to take a lot of bravery to go against the powers that be, but I think the Mexican people can do it. I hope the young people who are growing up in this new Mexico will be the ones to improve the country in the future.
The next 5-10 years SOB will tell the tale----------and, I hope to God you are correct, amc760.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Its not really people. Its Jdubs moms, and others who are terrified of the illegal immigration.

I think in a mainstream conversation, if you suggested something like that, you'd be laughed out the room.
I agree. I have never EVER heard anyone anywhere talk about illegal immigration. Not in a postive sense or in a negative sense. The hysteria seems to be perpetuated on this forum.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: California
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I agree. I have never EVER heard anyone anywhere talk about illegal immigration. Not in a postive sense or in a negative sense. The hysteria seems to be perpetuated on this forum.
I rarely discuss illegal immigration too. But I meant insinuating that Mexicans have rape and murder culturally embedded in them. Thats some real backwards thinking!
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:09 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I rarely discuss illegal immigration too. But I meant insinuating that Mexicans have rape and murder culturally embedded in them. Thats some real backwards thinking!
I know. Actually, there's a thread going on now in the politics forum about muslims....pretty sad. So much hatred & disgust, I don't get it.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:21 PM
 
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Could it be that Americans are less tolerant of other cultures??
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:23 PM
 
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Could it be that Americans are less tolerant of other cultures??
ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Sorry but unless you are Native American...aren't all of us "white" people the original immigrants of this land. Now we want to judge others for coming here when our ancestors did the same. Kind of hipocritical in my book!
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:31 PM
 
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Sorry but unless you are Native American...aren't all of us "white" people the original immigrants of this land. Now we want to judge others for coming here when our ancestors did the same. Kind of hipocritical in my book!
Well yes, that's what some have mentioned. However, as soon as you mention that, others will quip "that happened a long time ago", "it's totally not the same", etc. etc.
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