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Old 09-08-2008, 05:26 AM
 
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Los Angeles County ó A new study by the Rand Corp. finds that illegal aliens kicked out of the United States and then return, commit more crime.

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Old 09-08-2008, 08:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Good article. However, the information contained in it doesn't surprise me in the least, so prepare to be flamed by the naysayers among us.....
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Good article. However, the information contained in it doesn't surprise me in the least, so prepare to be flamed by the naysayers among us.....
Ya, all three of em.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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More reason to secure our borders. Many of these people are career criminals. Therefore, the recidivism rate is to be expected. Itís ridiculous to have people living illegally in this country who have been deported several times. Itís a ridiculous as Ďlocking-upí prisoners, and hanging the keys inside the cells.

As long as we have open borders, foreign criminals will continue to make a mockery out of our laws, and waste precious tax dollars on repeated deportation proceedings. Yet, we who oppose are labeled as mean-spirited xenophobes.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Pa
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More reason to secure our borders. Many of these people are career criminals. Therefore, the recidivism rate is to be expected. Itís ridiculous to have people living illegally in this country who have been deported several times. Itís a ridiculous as Ďlocking-upí prisoners, and hanging the keys inside the cells.

As long as we have open borders, foreign criminals will continue to make a mockery out of our laws, and waste precious tax dollars on repeated deportation proceedings. Yet, we who oppose are labeled as mean-spirited xenophobes.
Good points one and all. Turning the cheek time and time again has caused the illegals to become even more bold, more demanding and LOL Irony at its best it has caused the pro illegals to become more insistant that we owe the illegals a better life.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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So where's the surprise? You catch a career criminal, you prosecute him, and you deport him, and he returns...and SURPRISE !! ..he resumes his career as a criminal. Well, what do we EXPECT him to do? Return and take up a position as head of the local Neighborhood Watch?

Criminals 'act' like criminals because that's what they are. A brief trip 'out of the country' is highly unlikely to cause them to 're-think' their priorities.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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So where's the surprise? You catch a career criminal, you prosecute him, and you deport him, and he returns...and SURPRISE !! ..he resumes his career as a criminal. Well, what do we EXPECT him to do? Return and take up a position as head of the local Neighborhood Watch?

Criminals 'act' like criminals because that's what they are. A brief trip 'out of the country' is highly unlikely to cause them to 're-think' their priorities.
Absolutely!
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Ya, all three of em.
Actually, it's probably one with two sock puppets.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:28 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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naysayers? you guys really crack me up.

thats why we DO need more border enforcement. and thats why we need to question these violent, druggy offenders in jail. anyone who ends up in jail deserves punishment and tracking.

sheriff baca even said it tho. hes not concerned with the everyday illegal immigrant, just the ones commiting crimes. the everyday immigrant is not committing the crimes. (yes yes, they broke into the country. that is their crime. we get it. we get it.) its the ones that already been locked up that are the real problem. its those in gangs that are the real problem.

i think this can be for a couple reasons. one of the scenarios i envision is these young kids brought here by their parents when they were young, the parents too preocuppied with work let the kids run the streets. join gangs. steal rob and mob. etc etc. these kids then get caught. do time. realize now that they are in jail that they also dont have papers and will be deported. what will they do? come back to the only home they've known.
stupidly enough, they come back the same criminal that left. whether the streets beckon or not, these people find themselves back in the same place doing the same thing. i dont think the detention of illegals works quite like rehabilitation is supposed to in regular jails. but recidivism has always been an issue when it comes to our penal system.
the only deterrant for these twice, thrice, caught people is a heavier jail sentence. after serving 5 to 10 years im sure they would rather stay away. or stay hidden/flyin under the radar and committing less crime. thats one scenario.
another is the more common case of these guys who come here illegally on their own. they have family and kids here. they get caught up in some dirt. they then get the boot, but since their whole families are here, they come back to join them. they have been warned. most would want to go unnoticed. some dont.
they know what they are doing, they should be ready for the heavier sentence.
these are criminals. thats who does it.
detention, rehabilitation and recidivism are complex subjects.
i think the ball is being dropped by too many people.
the BP.
the Sheriff.
lots could be done to improve the safety of all of us here.
the bottom line is that these guys are criminals and theyr re-entry is no suprise. i dont think anyone is suprised by this finding.
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