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Old 09-16-2008, 06:45 PM
 
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Actions speak louder than words. In regards to the border, the current occupant of the White House has been quite clear with his position.

Has he done anything to help this country? I did not like Clinton when he was President either, but this country was not in the mess that it is in now.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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Mr. Obama, you can help build Mexico's economy all you want by yourself. Don't expect all of America to join you though.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:48 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i know i know it seems crazy. kindalike the idea of an american hospital in TJ providing free care so people dont cross over. but its not crazy if it works.
the marie antoinette approach is not working.
obama 08
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Has he done anything to help this country? I did not like Clinton when he was President either, but this country was not in the mess that it is in now.
The entire planet is having energy and food shortages. I suppose that Bush is behind that too?

America first, Mexico has more than enough dough to help it's peasant population. If it cared.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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Has he done anything to help this country? I did not like Clinton when he was President either, but this country was not in the mess that it is in now.
No, sassy I think you misunderstand.....bush is completely in mexicos pocket and always has been. He actually had delusions that he and Fox were 'amigos'. Meanwhile, fox was able to export his poor, uneducated and occasional criminals while maintaining the rich and middle class. The US has been played for suckers by sob, most particularily Mexico and it has to stop. The only way Mexico will ever reform itself is if it didn't have the escape valve that the US has become for them.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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No, sassy I think you misunderstand.....bush is completely in mexicos pocket and always has been. He actually had delusions that he and Fox were 'amigos'. Meanwhile, fox was able to export his poor, uneducated and occasional criminals while maintaining the rich and middle class. The US has been played for suckers by sob, most particularily Mexico and it has to stop. The only way Mexico will ever reform itself is if it didn't have the escape valve that the US has become for them.
I'm sorry that my post was not more clear. I'm saying or was trying to say that President Bush has not done one darn thing to help this country and would and has thrown us under the bus. It is a crime what he was allowed to do to this country., thanks for letting me clarify my message Camping
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yuck. I will NOT be voting for Obama. It's a hoot to see all of these people who are voting for him b/c they think he is "cool" or "black" like them. They don't realize that he's a muslim disguised as a white. Anyhow..I won't be voting for Obama HUSSEIN. Nope.
Hold on here a moment:

Some Muslims are indeed White---------and, I am not just referring to Arabs/Iranians either (who are still counted as Anglos here in Arizona).

As for Obama being a secret Muslim; I think not-------------it is against Islamic 'law' to deny one's faith. And; I am referring to the moderate Muslims here-----------not the apostates like Osama bin Laden.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Has he done anything to help this country? I did not like Clinton when he was President either, but this country was not in the mess that it is in now.
The Clinton administration set the stage and ignored some pretty obvious warnings. The sub-prime loan/ninja loans were developed under Clinton to help people obtain home ownership. Bush also ignored some very hefty warnings and used the masses of new homeowners to feather his political hat. Barney Frank oversaw Freddie and Fannie Mae, where was he before the sh11 hit the fan? Both administrations are lacking. When republicans and democrats can finally see that they are all whores, perhaps we can insist that they make some real "change."
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:56 AM
 
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The Clinton administration set the stage and ignored some pretty obvious warnings. The sub-prime loan/ninja loans were developed under Clinton to help people obtain home ownership. Bush also ignored some very hefty warnings and used the masses of new homeowners to feather his political hat. Barney Frank oversaw Freddie and Fannie Mae, where was he before the sh11 hit the fan? Both administrations are lacking. When republicans and democrats can finally see that they are all whores, perhaps we can insist that they make some real "change."


I agree-great post!

Nicolem
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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As for Obama being a secret Muslim; I think not-------------it is against Islamic 'law' to deny one's faith. And; I am referring to the moderate Muslims here-----------not the apostates like Osama bin Laden.
I am not qualified to discuss Islam, however, I will refer you to some discussions, that Islam permits "lying" under certain circumstances, which includes denoucing Islam.

Islam Review - Presented by The Pen vs. the Sword Featured Articles . . . Islam: the Facade, the Facts The rosy picture some Muslims are painting about their religion, and the truth they try to hide.

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and the Truth

Yet another refute to this is not a matter of national security.

Cheers!

http://islam.com.mx/index.php

Rep. John Culberson, R-Texas, said the DEA report indicates Islamic radicals are camouflaging themselves as Hispanics.
“I have been ringing the bell about this serious threat of Islamic individuals changing their surnames to Hispanic surnames for three to four years,” Culberson told the Washington Times.
“Unfortunately, Homeland Security’s highest priority is to hide the truth from Congress and the public. I just hope we’re not closing the barn door after terrorists have already made their way in.”
http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/rep...ashington.html

Mahmoud Youssef Kourani was indicted in the Eastern District of Michigan on one count of Conspiracy to Provide Material Support to Hizballah. Kourani was already in custody for entering the country illegally through Mexico and was involved in fundraising activities on behalf of Hizballah.
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress05/mueller021605.htm (broken link)

U.S. policymakers and security officials should continue to worry about border security and the potential for al-Qaeda infiltration into Mexico. Given the evidence to date, however, any potential inroads by al-Qaeda into Mexico is not likely to come through ties with Mexico's Muslim community—and this includes local converts or otherwise. Washington would be better served by concentrating its resources to confront Mexico's weak institutions, corruption, the influence of drug and other criminal gangs and poverty that may be exploited by al-Qaeda as a means to a greater end, as they have all too often in other parts of the world.
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2370015 (broken link)



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