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Old 09-13-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Silliness. He is going to stop the demagoguery by passing immigration reform. McCain is going to do the same thing.

Any rational government is going to do the same thing.

There simply is no other way to gain control of illegal immigration.
So in other words, the only way to control it is to condone it???

THAT makes a lot of sense...

 
Old 09-13-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: US
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I don't know olecapt. He voted against the immigration reform act of 2007 sponsored by Ted Kennedy and John McCain. I fear what he would do if he became President. I'd like to think he'd even remotely work toward immigration reform, but I believe, based on his comments, he would give complete amnesty to illegals, open the borders and let them all in, make everything free for them, and make it a hate crime to speak against illegal immigration. I believe he is going to give them a complete pass for their vote. Nancy Pelosi wants complete amnesty to increase the seats in California. I just don't think he'll exercise any control of illegal immigration.

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Originally Posted by olecapt View Post
Silliness. He is going to stop the demagoguery by passing immigration reform. McCain is going to do the same thing.

Any rational government is going to do the same thing.

There simply is no other way to gain control of illegal immigration.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I don't know olecapt. He voted against the immigration reform act of 2007 sponsored by Ted Kennedy and John McCain. I fear what he would do if he became President. I'd like to think he'd even remotely work toward immigration reform, but I believe, based on his comments, he would give complete amnesty to illegals, open the borders and let them all in, make everything free for them, and make it a hate crime to speak against illegal immigration. I believe he is going to give them a complete pass for their vote. Nancy Pelosi wants complete amnesty to increase the seats in California. I just don't think he'll exercise any control of illegal immigration.
I respectfully disagree that Obama will try even half of what you fear..........

If nothing else: he has another voter bloc that that he would at high risk to imperil: American Blacks. That group is fast becoming quite anti illegal immigrant for obvious reasons.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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I don't know olecapt. He voted against the immigration reform act of 2007 sponsored by Ted Kennedy and John McCain. I fear what he would do if he became President. I'd like to think he'd even remotely work toward immigration reform, but I believe, based on his comments, he would give complete amnesty to illegals, open the borders and let them all in, make everything free for them, and make it a hate crime to speak against illegal immigration. I believe he is going to give them a complete pass for their vote. Nancy Pelosi wants complete amnesty to increase the seats in California. I just don't think he'll exercise any control of illegal immigration.

The McCain- Kennedy bill was amnesty. McCain and Obama are both for amnesty-regardless of what pretty name they give it.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:04 PM
 
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My sentiments exactly! No doubt, Janet Murguia and her minions at La Raza, are pressuring Obama to “stop the hate”. Any speech La Raza, et al. consider anti-illegal is automatically labeled “hate” speech. We must fight this infringement on our constitutional rights.

The sheeple are so busy arguing over ‘he said, she said’ nonsense, they are oblivious to the ‘real’ issues. People had better get their heads out of the sand, and realize what’s happening to this country, before we lose all of our rights as Americans.

Most if not all of us support Obama and will vote for him in drones. I think it is the least he can do .

All that is asked is to stop the hate speech . That is not to much to ask for.
We can than have a civil debate and comprehensive plan that benefit's everyone.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:05 PM
 
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The McCain- Kennedy bill was amnesty. McCain and Obama are both for amnesty-regardless of what pretty name they give it.

lol I know isn't it great . 08 will be our year.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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lol I know isn't it great
It will be great when more and more illegals are chased out of my country
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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lol I know isn't it great . 08 will be our year.
No it is not great and no it won't be.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:09 PM
 
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Has anyone else noticed that Bianca G made her appearance right after Californio "left"?
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Has anyone else noticed that Bianca G made her appearance right after Californio "left"?
Perhaps.

It seems that when one mole (DREAMie) is whacked-----------out pops another.
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