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Old 09-13-2008, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Don't let it bother you...it's not the 'end of the world', anyway. Obama only said he'd stop hate speech directed at ILLEGALS....as soon as they're 'legal', they're OK to hate.....at least, that's my understanding.
That's a relief. I tend to get a little cranky if I can't get my 'hate on' -- especially if there's a full moon.

 
Old 09-13-2008, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Garfield, NJ
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The bottom line is, getting our representatives to understand that the normal citizen that has been paying taxes all his life is tired of paying for everyone else all over the world! Then one day we will wake up and there will be no social security for our elderly, but illegals will have medical care that our own citizens can't afford. In fact they already do. Our elderly are struggling. And it will not get any better.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 08:49 PM
 
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The bottom line is, getting our representatives to understand that the normal citizen that has been paying taxes all his life is tired of paying for everyone else all over the world! Then one day we will wake up and there will be no social security for our elderly, but illegals will have medical care that our own citizens can't afford. In fact they already do. Our elderly are struggling. And it will not get any better.
Oh they understand, the problem is they are obligated to the lobbyist to keep their end of the bargain. The problem is they don't care.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 09:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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That we are voting for Obama in drones ? Yes the Mexican American citizens we love him . Non citizens love him also but we don't vote .

I looked it up {the word drone} but there was no need to post meaning as had nothing to do with the debate
Somebody stop me.....no wait, I have to do it...

drone: noun
1. a person who lives on the labor of others; parasitic loafer.
2. a drudge.
3. a monotonous low tone; humming or buzzing sound.
4. a person who speaks in a monotonous tone.
5, A person who does tedious or menial work.

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 09:37 PM
 
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Appears to me to be appropriate usage.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Somebody stop me.....no wait, I have to do it...

drone: noun
1. a person who lives on the labor of others; parasitic loafer.
2. a drudge.
3. a monotonous low tone; humming or buzzing sound.
4. a person who speaks in a monotonous tone.
5, A person who does tedious or menial work.

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
Don't forget the unmanned aircraft. That's it.......our government has agreed to provide them transportation. And we thought Bianca didn't know the meaning.
 
Old 09-14-2008, 09:25 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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This is an article about how illegal immigrants kill more Americans than the Iraq war.
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says -- GOPUSA (http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/february/0222_illegals_report.shtml - broken link)
Again a silly discussion. Natives kill 8 or 9 times more than illegals. If compared by social/economic status there are much more dangerous native groups...

So if you import illegals you likely lower the murder rate in the bad neighborhoods.
 
Old 09-14-2008, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Again a silly discussion. Natives kill 8 or 9 times more than illegals. If compared by social/economic status there are much more dangerous native groups...

So if you import illegals you likely lower the murder rate in the bad neighborhoods.
Common sense dictates legal citizens would statistically outnumber illegals in criminal offenses. After all, legal citizens vastly outnumber illegals. However, I fail to understand how illegals lower the crime rate. That's quite a stretch.
 
Old 09-14-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Again a silly discussion. Natives kill 8 or 9 times more than illegals. If compared by social/economic status there are much more dangerous native groups...

So if you import illegals you likely lower the murder rate in the bad neighborhoods.
Really?

I'd like to see the research you've accumulated to back those claims (bolded). Additionally, it would make sense that citizens would cause harm to more Americans than illegals do--given the mathematical ratio of American citizens to illegal aliens.

But again, I ask you. Why, in the name of all that's sane, would we condone the importation of criminals into this country to fold, spindle, and mutilate her citizens when we have more than enough of the homegrown variety willing to do the same?

It simply makes me wonder about the intelligence quotient of those who cannot see the inanity of this particular argument.
 
Old 09-14-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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Common sense dictates legal citizens would statistically outnumber illegals in criminal offenses. After all, legal citizens vastly outnumber illegals. However, I fail to understand how illegals lower the crime rate. That's quite a stretch.
APPARENTLY, Olecapt is suggesting that illegals lower the overall crime rate by simply "diluting" our own restive pool of native-born malefactors. Take the average Mafia "family" of, say, 100 'guys'.....add in 20 soft-spoken Amish farmers....and you NOW have a 'group' of 120...with a SLIGHTLY lower rate of 'hits' per 'guy'. The Amish don't USUALLY 'whack' guys....at least not very often. Therefore your crime rate has dropped....
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