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Old 02-07-2007, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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What about the companies that say they are trying to check for legal status but, the documents are hard for them to tell if these are real or fake? So, for some companies they know they are hiring illegals and for others if the papers look right then, how do they know if they are not?
I have a friend in the landscaping buisness and she runs across this all the time. With a little experience with the paper work she is learning but, like she says there's really know way to actullay know if the papers are real or fake.
Basically all they have to do is call the SS Admin, and they can do a check, they will know pretty much all about person with that number, DOB ,death ,name and so on. If they dont have one, well that is a big red flag.

 
Old 02-07-2007, 09:58 AM
 
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Basically all they have to do is call the SS Admin, and they can do a check, they will know pretty much all about person with that number, DOB ,death ,name and so on. If they dont have one, well that is a big red flag.
You might want to check out these sights they are making it harder for employers to identify. Looks like they actually help the illegals. Makes you wonder why we even call them illegals when OUR government is helping them out.

http://www.Library.findlaw.com/1999/Dec/1/128927.html (broken link)
http://www.nelp.org/docUploads/pub147.pdf (broken link)
 
Old 02-07-2007, 11:11 AM
 
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Lets analize these excuses.

Racist: strange people from all races are aginst illegals, including latinos.

Doing the job Americans won't do, baloney, we all know better that that, just raise the wages and that one will fix its self.

Poverty Stricken: so what, I have proved a lot of countries have much worse poverty and are starving.

Now, give me the new excuse of the week, I am ready to hear it.

Oh Amnesty, if the illegals get it, every lawbreaker in our country should also, we can not discriminate, look at the dollars we can save on incarsaration.


I thought I would get a lot of response from this one, I know there must be more excuses, no takers?

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Old 02-07-2007, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Lets analize these excuses.

Racist: strange people from all races are aginst illegals, including latinos.

Doing the job Americans won't do, baloney, we all know better that that, just raise the wages and that one will fix its self.

Poverty Stricken: so what, I have proved a lot of countries have much worse poverty and are starving.

Now, give me the new excuse of the week, I am ready to hear it.

Oh Amnesty, if the illegals get it, every lawbreaker in our country should also, we can not discriminate, look at the dollars we can save on incarsaration.[/QUOTE



I thought I would get a lot of response from this one, I know there must be more excuses, no takers?


give it time they will come!
 
Old 02-07-2007, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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give it time they will come!
Yes, give it time. There will be a few who will chime in with the same response. Like they work hard, I'd hire them. They're so poor, blah blah.

Of course there are people in other countries who are worse off -

I guess we should just feed everyone, never mind we got starving people in this country - children, elderly......

You cannot argue or change anyone in their thinking - as i cannot be changed. I just wish "some" will wake up and see it's only going to get worse. I suppose they might get it, when their job is no longer or they're no longer needed because after all, Illegals work cheap and are so poor.
 
Old 02-07-2007, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Basically all they have to do is call the SS Admin, and they can do a check, they will know pretty much all about person with that number, DOB ,death ,name and so on. If they dont have one, well that is a big red flag.
As an employer that hired by the dozens, down in Texas what you are saying is pretty much correct. However, they won't give you information. i.e. they won't give you a name if you give a number. But, having said that, you learn. If you give them the number, the DOB, and the Name, and ask if they match, they will tell you yes or no.

Here's a couple little things you can do on a SS card. In Texas they sell them at the flea market if you know which booth and who and what to say. But they're fake, you just have to know what to look for.

Take your social security card out. run your thumb nail across the pillars. They should be raised. the ones they were using down there were not.

See the line under where you signed? Better not. That's not a line. It's a series of little words. Look at it with a magnifying glass. The fakes, it was actually a line and not words.

If you have a black light, look at the back. the fakes, when shown under a black light had the printing on the back. "For novelty use only, not legal for use."
 
Old 02-07-2007, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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SS #'s can be checked by a company, they can also be checked to see if they are for a deceased person. A company really doesn't have an excuse by saying "we didn't know they were illegal". I can take a SS # and tell exactly the name that goes with it, or if that person is deceased or not.
Can you please direct me to that url will check social security records?
 
Old 02-07-2007, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Can you please direct me to that url will check social security records?

LOL, you can't get into social security records from a url. and I don't have a url that I use. If you are a business owner (and must provide proof) with a business license and tax ID number you can buy the software to run background checks on potential employees. I got mine from Florida, the fee $119.00 a year. If you own a business in Florida check with SunBiz.Org to get the info on this software.
 
Old 02-13-2007, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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SS# can be fake, ID's can be fake. Documents can be fake.
Anchor babies are a problem. They should not recieve automatic citizenship just for being born here. San Fernando Valley in S.Calif. has turned into Mexico. If I sound harsh, sorry but I am sick of seeing shopping carts on every street corner,illegals crowding our Emergancy rooms,trash everywhere,people pushing carts and honking horns,noise and filth and........I could go on and on. I am just sick and tired of being sick and tired and nobodys doing a damn thing to curb illegals here in the valley. It's completely out of control.
 
Old 02-13-2007, 08:45 AM
 
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SS# can be fake, ID's can be fake. Documents can be fake.
This is true. And unfortunately some of the forgeries are quite good. It has been noted that with the proper forged papers, an illegal alien could end up piloting a 757.
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