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Old 03-20-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Oh, is that all?

Coincidentally I came back here to remark on the Nazis, who recruited by convincing not-too-bright and all-too-willing-to-believe Germans that their troubles were all the fault of "certain minorities."

And I still maintain your obsession makes you paranoid. What do you hope Im hiding?
You are amusing.

 
Old 03-21-2010, 07:38 AM
 
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Oh, is that all?

Coincidentally I came back here to remark on the Nazis, who recruited by convincing not-too-bright and all-too-willing-to-believe Germans that their troubles were all the fault of "certain minorities."

And I still maintain your obsession makes you paranoid. What do you hope Im hiding?
Here is where you go wrong in "today's" world. Anti-illegal immigrationists are not objecting to certain minorities. We are objecting to illegal aliens in our midst regardless of their race or ethnicity. As I said, just because the KKK opposes illegal immigration also that doesn't mean we hold any other similiaties to their agenda. It is just another way of pulling the race card from the pro-illegal side.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Here is where you go wrong in "today's" world. Anti-illegal immigrationists are not objecting to certain minorities. We are objecting to illegal aliens in our midst regardless of their race or ethnicity. As I said, just because the KKK opposes illegal immigration also that doesn't mean we hold any other similiaties to their agenda. It is just another way of pulling the race card from the pro-illegal side.
"the race card," cant believe someone would say that in a thread like this with a straight face. Whatever kind of "minority" the target group is doesnt matter. This thread is about a resurgence of the KKK based on rising resentment against illegal immigrants. It was reopened by someone who evidently had an agenda so to do, and has been eagerly added to by posters who consistently have said basically what you're saying -- that they themselves certainly are not the 1915, 1920, 1931, 1963 type, these days, but when it comes to those illegal aliens, the KKK has a point.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Where were you all, a couple of weeks ago? They could have used more tough-guy supporters.

Features: The Klan Returns - Flagpole Magazine: Colorbearer of Athens, GA (http://flagpole.com/Weekly/Features/TheKlanReturns-3Mar10 - broken link)

ďA select few of us have come here today to peacefully protest the immigration issues the current administration is failing to address. Wake up, Georgia, and stop the Latino invasion now!Ē

"For 40 minutes the wizard explained why the U.S. should close its borders and deport 'the third world mud people.' He let the crowd in on one of the Klanís many conspiracy theories: that our government gives Mexicans handouts as a way of buying their votes. 'All them new voters are going to vote against the very things weíve been fighting for for 200 years,' he proclaimed.
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"Beyond advocating 'ridding our country of inbred mongrels,' Jones called for new leadership. He said we need another Hoover, Truman or Eisenhower, because they all deported Mexicans. He called on voters to oust the 'cackling liberals who are working on this communist/socialist agenda' and said that President Obama 'isnít fit to run a Winn Dixie.' Sounding at times like a Tea Party leader, the wizard urged listeners to kill NAFTA, stop welfare, institute the Fair Tax and to take up arms. He also called on the government to get out of Haiti, to bring Christianity back into our courts and schools, and to take care of 'the Anglo-Americans who founded this country.'"
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Lol, paranoia, will destroy ya. I hope you didnt feel insulted by the article about the KKK rally. Dont you find it sort of heartwarming that there's a whole group of folks out there with a long and dramatic tradition who feel just the same way that you do about illegal immigrants et al.?

Sure, those boys got a little rowdy in the past but some folks just wont listen to reason.
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Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
Oh, is that all?

Coincidentally I came back here to remark on the Nazis, who recruited by convincing not-too-bright and all-too-willing-to-believe Germans that their troubles were all the fault of "certain minorities."

And I still maintain your obsession makes you paranoid. What do you hope Im hiding?
Címon, you canít seriously believe that opposition to illegal immigration equates to support for the KKK. How is that even logical? Donít you sympathize with illegal aliens? If so, based on your ďlogic,Ē you and other like-minded individuals must also endorse the Reconquista Movement. As a matter of fact, the groups who espouse this Aztlan nonsense are some of the staunchest supporters of Hispanic illegal aliens. Given that you share their stance on specific aspects of illegal immigration, you couldnít possibly disagree with their basic tenets, right?

By virtue of supporting a cause also supported by a malevolent group, following your ďlogicĒ one is also placed in the same vile category as said group. Isnít that the premise of your ad hominem fallacy? Oh, and invoking Godwinís Law with your reference to Hitler was the icing on the cake. Good job -- youíre an excellent student of pro-illegal propaganda and smear tactics. You get an A+.

Gotta run, I have a protest march to attend. Sorry to disappoint you, but it isnít a KKK rally, itís the so-called ďMarch for America.Ē Iím sure Iíll see quite a few of your Reconquista compadres there. Iíll give them a shout-out for you.



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Old 03-21-2010, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Pa
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"the race card," cant believe someone would say that in a thread like this with a straight face. Whatever kind of "minority" the target group is doesnt matter. This thread is about a resurgence of the KKK based on rising resentment against illegal immigrants. It was reopened by someone who evidently had an agenda so to do, and has been eagerly added to by posters who consistently have said basically what you're saying -- that they themselves certainly are not the 1915, 1920, 1931, 1963 type, these days, but when it comes to those illegal aliens, the KKK has a point.
Well does the KKK have a valid point? Are illegals a big problem in this country? The USA has more illegals per capitia than any other 1st world nation. We have 10% + unemployment. Our social services are stretched and Hospitals all over the country are being ripped off by illegals not paying for services. Add to this the absolute fact that a good many illegals are also violent criminals and were such before crossing the border.
I ask again does the KKK have a valid point?
I detest such small minded people who can hate based on skin tone or hate a child based on race. That said a valid point is a valid point.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 03:05 PM
 
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Well does the KKK have a valid point? Are illegals a big problem in this country? The USA has more illegals per capitia than any other 1st world nation. We have 10% + unemployment. Our social services are stretched and Hospitals all over the country are being ripped off by illegals not paying for services. Add to this the absolute fact that a good many illegals are also violent criminals and were such before crossing the border.
I ask again does the KKK have a valid point?
I detest such small minded people who can hate based on skin tone or hate a child based on race. That said a valid point is a valid point.
Agreed, Tinman. If the KKK came out tomorrow, with a statement praising clean water, would 'decent' people loudly distance themselves? Of course not. 'Clean water' is just basic common sense...who DOESN'T want it?

The KKK is a group of 'wackos'. As such, who CARES what they do..or do not..."condone"?.

Silly, sophomoric discussion. I'm not concerned about what the KKK (or the Crips..or the Bloods...or the Taliban) are presently "pushing". The aims of these groups have nothing to do with my position..one way or another.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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The race card is injected into just about every social issue in the United States, whether it be health care, illegal immigration, gay marriage, or "global warming". That is the major downside of living in such a multicultural society, is that most people are obsessed with race. That is why I laugh when people say that "diversity is our strength". "Diversity" seems to divide us more than unite us. The United States is not a melting pot, it is a salad bowl. A salad bowl society is not an ideal society. Not much assimilation goes on in a salad bowl society.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The race card is injected into just about every social issue in the United States, whether it be health care, illegal immigration, gay marriage, or "global warming". That is the major downside of living in such a multicultural society, is that most people are obsessed with race. That is why I laugh when people say that "diversity is our strength". "Diversity" seems to divide us more than unite us. The United States is not a melting pot, it is a salad bowl. A salad bowl society is not an ideal society. Not much assimilation goes on in a salad bowl society.
Multiculturalism=ghetto.

Cosmopolitanism=solid Middle Class values with legal immigrants from wherever.

There is a difference
 
Old 03-21-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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The race card is injected into just about every social issue in the United States, whether it be health care, illegal immigration, gay marriage, or "global warming". That is the major downside of living in such a multicultural society, is that most people are obsessed with race. That is why I laugh when people say that "diversity is our strength". "Diversity" seems to divide us more than unite us. The United States is not a melting pot, it is a salad bowl. A salad bowl society is not an ideal society. Not much assimilation goes on in a salad bowl society.
I totally agree. The melting pot has gone by the wayside of late.
 
Old 03-22-2010, 07:07 AM
Yac
 
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I really love it how everyone used this unfortunate thread resurrection as a chance to take a stab at your "opponents"...very classy. And constructive.

Closed.
Yac.
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