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Old 02-16-2007, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Earth
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When we have Jihad terrorists as the main villians in the show '24', guess what happens? That's right, we have civil rights attornies suing the networks saying this is racist and biased against arabs/muslims.
I don't know on what grounds there could be a lawsuit under, but any concerns about racism or Islamophobia could be assuaged by having an Arab or South Asian Muslim as one of the good guys as well as having Middle Eastern or South Asian Muslims as bad guys.

 
Old 02-16-2007, 10:17 PM
 
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I don't know on what grounds there could be a lawsuit under, but any concerns about racism or Islamophobia could be assuaged by having an Arab or South Asian Muslim as one of the good guys as well as having Middle Eastern or South Asian Muslims as bad guys.
I believe the issue with the plaintiffs is that the show relies on the stereotype so often.. not that the show sometimes uses it.

The best tactic is to use the type of villain in moderation and to make it obvious in some fashion that the villain does not represent all of his ethnic group (e.g. show the Muslim community in Anytown rejoice when the plot is foiled)
 
Old 02-20-2007, 04:52 PM
 
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I believe the issue with the plaintiffs is that the show relies on the stereotype so often.. not that the show sometimes uses it.

The best tactic is to use the type of villain in moderation and to make it obvious in some fashion that the villain does not represent all of his ethnic group (e.g. show the Muslim community in Anytown rejoice when the plot is foiled)
But seriously guys, why do we have to be so 'sensitive' about it. We all know that nearly all of the hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. Are we in denial that Arab Muslim extremists want to kill us? Who are we kidding? I see nothing wrong with putting Arab Muslims as good guys on the show as well, but I mean c'mon. Why do we have to do this dance all the time for the sake of being politically correct? Drives me nuts.
 
Old 02-22-2007, 08:45 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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But seriously guys, why do we have to be so 'sensitive' about it. We all know that nearly all of the hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. Are we in denial that Arab Muslim extremists want to kill us? Who are we kidding? I see nothing wrong with putting Arab Muslims as good guys on the show as well, but I mean c'mon. Why do we have to do this dance all the time for the sake of being politically correct? Drives me nuts.

It's always been that way. If you like the "Death Wish" movies (I do, but don't tell anyone ) you'll notice how carefully they "integrate" the bad guys and the good guys. I'll bet the producers had a board meeting deciding it all.
 
Old 02-22-2007, 09:55 PM
 
Location: California
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The truth is the KKK has been declining for a long time, it's a hand full of old timers and a bunch of lost youth's trying to belong to something, it's nothing to worry about.
 
Old 02-26-2007, 08:44 PM
 
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The truth is the KKK has been declining for a long time, it's nothing to worry about. Wrong Wrong Wrong WrongWrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong

The KKK was successful at stopping the 19th century immigration wave. And upholding the prevailing (Minimum) wage.

For example In 1890 the typical immigrant to the USA was a southern or Eastern European who was most likely Roman Catholic or Jewish.

He or she entered the workfore poorly educated and almost always was an elementary school dropout with poor command of both the English language and his own. He was paid no more than 50 cents a day.

By 1910 his son who was about 18 years old with at least a High school education and a better command of English. Was ready to enter the workforce. He was at first paid one dollar a day.

Shorty after he was Hired he was then fired and another immigrant from Europe with a poor command of English and Poorly educated replaced him at 50 cents an hour.

The Klan Marched on Washington in 1923. In statisical terms their march was much larger than Martin Kings 1963 Dream speech and the Million Blackspazman march.

As a result congress passed the immigration act of 1927. Which put quotas and restricted immigration to the USA. Since 1927 to 1965 the prevailing wage gap between the rich and poor narrowed. America developed a middle class. The nifty 50's. Like Father knows best, Leave it to Beaver etc. The Poor had a standard of living similar to that of the Liberal rich. The poor could go out and eat in a restaurant every night like the rich. In the same restaurants also. They did not have to go in the fast food rat holes either. Since the immigration act of 1965 the prevailing wage has shrunk in real terms but not actual.

So guess what we lost the middle class. So the Klan was not that bad after all.

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Old 02-26-2007, 09:05 PM
 
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OKay, I think people need to listen to this article from an AOL sports columnist:

Time to Stop Looking Past Black KKK

We have a problem in the black community, and it didn’t make its debut at All-Star Weekend Vegas. What was impossible to ignore in Vegas was on display in Houston, Atlanta and previous All-Star locations.

With the exception of Louis Farrakhan’s 1995 Million Man March, it’s been on display nearly every time we’ve gathered in large groups to socialize in the past 15 or so years.

The Black Ku Klux Klan shows up in full force and does its best to ruin our good time. Instead of wearing white robes and white hoods, the new KKK has now taken to wearing white Ts and calling themselves gangsta rappers, gangbangers and posse members.

Just like the White KKK of the 1940s and ‘50s, we fear them, keep our eyes lowered, shut our mouths and pray they don’t bother us.

We sing their racist songs, gleefully call ourselves the N-word, hype their celebrity and get upset when white people whisper concerns about our sanity.

And whenever someone publicly states that the Black KKK is terrorizing black people, black neighborhoods, black social events and glorifying a negative, self-destructive lifestyle, we deny and blame the Man.

I’d like to kick it with my friends without worrying about the Black KKK opening fire in the parking lot. I’m tired of reading the about the drive-bys (modern-day lynchings). It gets old waking up and hearing about the Darrent Williamses, the Tupac Shakurs getting cut down in a hail of gunfire.

I’m tired of the lack of respect, the random violence, the celebration of drug dealers and the insinuation that education is anti-black.

I stood in line for 75 minutes in the Southwest A boarding group. I was fourth in line behind three elderly white people (ages 60 to 75). They beat me in line by three or four minutes. The A, B and C groups were all filled an hour before the flight’s scheduled departure.

Twenty feet away from where we all waited in line, a middle-aged black woman (45 to 55), what appeared to be her two sons (22 to 30) and an elderly black man (60s) all sat together and randomly slept, ate and talked.

When it was time to board the flight, the group of four stood, approached the elderly white woman standing in front of me and told her, “We’re second in line. That’s my bag on the floor.”

The elderly white people were obviously intimidated. I wasn’t and told the group they were crazy, and they needed to head to the back of the A boarding group and get in line behind all the people who stood for an hour.

Eventually, and I’m not making this up, one of the young men told the agent that this was racism and they were being to asked to move because they were black. The other young man said that people like me were the reason black people couldn’t get ahead.

Why would we fight the white KKK and forty years later embrace the black KKK?
 
Old 03-21-2007, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thumbs up The Ku Klux Klan

Racial Greetings,

Allow me to introduce my self, my name is Pastor David.
I am the Imperial Kludd of the Traditional Christian Knights ~ Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. www.tckkkk.org (broken link) As a Minister I help guide our group in a positive manner. There are 100's of "WANNABE" Klan's out there, most of which haven't a clue what the Ku Klux Klan is really about. Just as you have, the public now has a very bad taste for the KKK. Yes there has been a number of crimes done by and in the name of the KKK. The crimes commeted by Klansmen has made our image about as bad as it can be. Understand this, any crime commeted by a Klansman is a violation of his sacred oath. A true Klansman is sworn to uphold the Constitution & Laws of our great Nation.
At one point there were as many as 4.5 to 5 million members nation wide.
Like any political party or large organization, members find fame and fortune that leads to corruption... this is just plain fact. The TCK ~ KKK is a sound Christian group and very active. We just held a Rally in Stephenville, TX.
http://cbs11tv.com/local/local_story_076231452.html (broken link)
Please feel free to investigate this, you will find we have held 4 very successful rallies in the state and have a good reputation with state and local law enforcement.
 
Old 03-21-2007, 09:56 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Oh geez, not this again.

The KKK is no more vibrant now than it has been in recent years. Every time the anti-illegal immigration movement begins to make some headway in this country, people start screaming "Racist" and making allegations that the KKK is alive and well in the U.S. and behind the anti illegal immigration movement.

The only overt racism I've seen recently is the violent deaths of African Americans, both grown-ups and children, killed in and around Los Angeles by Latino gang members; killed because they are black and because the gang members are doing their best to run Black Americans out of Los Angeles. But you don't hear of that in the mainstream media do you? Nope, all you hear is that somewhere out there, a group of bigotted white boys are getting ready to lynch illegals.

Some people will believe anything they see in print. And if you believe that Imperial Kludd is an actual Klan member, I've got a bridge in Arizona that I would be happy to make you a really good deal on.
 
Old 03-22-2007, 06:39 AM
 
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No, the KKK is old news.

However, other stuff is going on. "Aryan Nations" graffiti is showing up in the areas our troops are occupying in Iraq. That is very ominous.

Imagine them infiltrating our miltary...gaining access to weapons...becoming more of a paramilitary organization. That is how the National Socialists got started.

People be vigilant.
I hate to tell you folks this, but gangs (not just Aryan Nation) in the military are on the rise. Last year in Germany a soldier died from injuries sustained from being "jumped in" by several military members in the barracks, who are also known gang members. Needless to say the people in charge tried to hush, hush the incident until the Stars & Stripes newspaper got a hold of it. They ran several long pieces on "Gangs in the Military" and it was quite an eyeopener. It's all online if you care to check it out.
Several years ago, a female NCO was arrested after it was discovered she was the leader of a well known gang and was using the military as her own recruitment agency. They were getting all their military training courtesy of Uncle Sam and using it on the streets.
So, if our government is going to ignore this within it's own military they are surely going to ignore the likes of the KKK. I hope that their (KKK) organization is pushed to the side and the law enforced by the proper people with the proper authority.
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