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Old 09-14-2008, 01:39 PM
 
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It is estimated that, in 2004, three million illegal immigrants entered the United States. In addition, the border with Mexico has never been properly secured, with only 9500 border agents trying to police an eight thousand mile border until 2005.

These factors have lead to an illegal immigrant population that has grown by at least 37% since the last United States census in the year 2000. This increase in illegal immigration will provide a political firestorm in Washington D.C. in the next few years since illegal immigrants are still included in the congressional apportionment calculation for 2010.

Congressional apportionment is the distribution of the 435 seats in the United States House Of Representatives among the 50 states. The calculation is done every decade and is based on the census of a state's total population. The calculation includes citizens and non citizens including illegal aliens. The last calculation was done by Congress in the year 2000 and the next calculation of apportionment will be done in 2010. In addition this once in a decade population tally is used as the basis to distribute more than $200 billion in federal aid to the states each year.

When examining the last congressional apportionment in the year 2000, several interesting things become apparent. Seven million illegal aliens were counted in the 2000 United States census. In total the census counted 18.5 million non-citizens. These illegal aliens and non-citizens tend to live in several states in a concentrated fashion. Since apportionment considers non-citizens and illegal aliens in its formula, the result in 2000 was a redistribution of nine congressional seats. The result was that low immigration states that seem unaffected by immigration experienced a loss of their political influence. This loss of political influence occurred through the loss of congressional seats in the House of Representatives. The presence of non citizens in the census and apportionment calculations had some dramatic political consequences. Due to the fact that non-citizens were factored into the 2000 calculation, Indiana, Michigan, Mississippi lost one seat each. The states of Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Utah each failed to gain a seat they should have had. The states with a high number of illegal aliens and non citizens gained the seats. California gained six seats and Florida, New York, and Texas gained one seat each.


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Old 09-14-2008, 03:23 PM
 
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Well, quite true, however if things keep up with current trends, we're about to secede from the union anyway. There is a clause in our state constitution that has specific wording to state sovereignty.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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I seem to recall something in the constitution about that. And a little war that was fought, in part due to a similar issue. Now what was it? Oh Yea.

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons … , three fifths of all other Persons.”

Interesting that a state gets to count those who are not citizens when determining representation. Bring in the Slaves, I mean Illegals. Pay them low wages thus attracting business and increasing exports. Use Federal dollars to help supplement the extra cost they bring and we get 6 extra seats in the senate, extra votes in the Presidential Election as well as more money and services.

Not that I believe this conspiracy theory but it is an amusing thought.

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Old 09-14-2008, 05:42 PM
 
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I seem to recall something in the constitution about that. And a little war that was fought, in part due to a similar issue. Now what was it? Oh Yea.

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons … , three fifths of all other Persons.”

Interesting that a state gets to count those who are not citizens when determining representation. Bring in the Slaves, I mean Illegals. Pay them low wages thus attracting business and increasing exports. Use Federal dollars to help supplement the extra cost they bring and we get 6 extra seats in the senate, extra votes in the Presidential Election as well as more money and services.

Not that I believe this conspiracy theory but it is an amusing thought.

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ITA. great post!
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:13 PM
 
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Applause for your wise words. It's all about power isn't it. God help us.

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I seem to recall something in the constitution about that. And a little war that was fought, in part due to a similar issue. Now what was it? Oh Yea.

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons … , three fifths of all other Persons.”

Interesting that a state gets to count those who are not citizens when determining representation. Bring in the Slaves, I mean Illegals. Pay them low wages thus attracting business and increasing exports. Use Federal dollars to help supplement the extra cost they bring and we get 6 extra seats in the senate, extra votes in the Presidential Election as well as more money and services.

Not that I believe this conspiracy theory but it is an amusing thought.

Random
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