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Old 07-21-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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"Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway."
-- John Wayne

Pull back the curtain of political correctness and you'll find organized crime behind the illegal aliens in this country. These are cowards, and they prey on fear. So that's the first thing you do. Know your enemy.

Second thing is educate yourself (just like everybody else is doing), because the smarter you are, the more ammunition you have going into this. It's a fire fight, you're outnumbered, there are few allies, and the only ones playing by the rules are the citizens of this country, who are for the most part, dumbed down, disorganized, most definitely, unfunded.

Disinformation is the enemy's first line of attack. So you need to realize there is no such thing as "illegal immigrant", "undocumented worker", or "undocumented immigrant", etc., and any such term is part of a propaganda war, a smokescreen. It serves its purpose to set a precident that these are immigrants, so in other words, you would be arguing about deporting citizens. That's complete bunk!

Truth : Illegal aliens are not citizens, and they are not immigrants, but what they are . . is criminal activity. Those who harbor, aid and abet them, etc., are part of this criminal activity.

Walk through the smoke. No fear! See, how easy that was? The next veil of smoke in the propaganda war is the arguments of semantics (the apologists). These arguments are nothing more than justifications for criminal activity, and serve their purpose to distract you from the truth. Walk through the smoke. No fear! See, how easy that was?

Sheriff falls under county government. Contact your county government or local Sheriff's office and make sure they are part of Section 287(g), which gives them the ability to arrest illegal aliens.
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Police fall under city government. So attending a City Council meeting is a good way to approach this conversation.

If the county or city dismiss your request, and it's completely probable they will -- they're not doing their jobs to represent you as a citizen in the first place if you have illegal aliens in the area. Your next approach would be to organize a citizen petition, and if necessary, remove the corrupt from political power.

It's a good start for being involved. Best wishes.

This is a very old but very good post. Just thought it was worth repeating.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Of course, building a wall on the southern border would ALSO be a huge waste of resources.

If actually were a wise use of resources, private individuals and companies would already be spending their own money to build it. But they're not.
You mean like private industry did in new orleans after the Army Corps of Engineers determined the levy system needed upgraded? No they didnt and eventually NO paid the price.
Private industry will only invest if the feel they will make profits from it.
What the wall does.
It narrows the access points. The more wall the fewer points of access the easier it is to catch them crossing.
A good use of resourses. before sending young troops to Afghanistan let them do 30 days on the border with the BP.
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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You mean like private industry did in new orleans after the Army Corps of Engineers determined the levy system needed upgraded? No they didnt and eventually NO paid the price.
Private industry will only invest if the feel they will make profits from it.
What the wall does.
It narrows the access points. The more wall the fewer points of access the easier it is to catch them crossing.
A good use of resourses. before sending young troops to Afghanistan let them do 30 days on the border with the BP.
If you think it's so great then start writing checks.

Because hey, if there's one thing we hear in this forum over and over again, it's how ILLEGALS are the ones that just take our money for their own person enjoyment/advancement/whatever. But this is pretty clearly a case where you're doing it yourself.
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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If you think it's so great then start writing checks.

Because hey, if there's one thing we hear in this forum over and over again, it's how ILLEGALS are the ones that just take our money for their own person enjoyment/advancement/whatever. But this is pretty clearly a case where you're doing it yourself.
I believe when I pay my taxes I am in fact paying for the FED to fulfill its primary purpose. Which would be the defence and security of this nation.
We went to war with 2 different nations due to deaths of US citizens on 911.
How many US citizens have been killed by illegals from SOB? How many robbed?
More to the point border security was supposed to be tightened after the great amnesty of the 80's. Still waiting for that.
By the way when did I ever claim illegals just take my money for their own personal enjoyment?
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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If it's about security then you should be concerned about the canadian border which is bigger and more open.

But you're not.

PS: no 9/11 hijackers snuck in.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:36 PM
 
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hmmm is that done for a person named Smith same as person named Hernandez .
Hmmm...did the person named hernandez steal the identity of the person named smith?
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:46 PM
 
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If it's about security then you should be concerned about the canadian border which is bigger and more open.

But you're not.

PS: no 9/11 hijackers snuck in.
Yeah because Toronto and Winnipeg have 300 murders a month by drug cartels. gtfo

The fact is most of the illegal aliens come from the mexican border. Since the Canadian Government actually isn't is disarray. Canadians arent living in squalor like mexicans.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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U know it seems funny that people are mad at immigrants esp when then country was founded by immigrants which is the typical double standardness of this country. Oh and by the way if u are going to close the borders, then make sure u close the northern one too as no one ever says anything about canada even though it was proven that only 23 miles of that border was patrolled unlike the southern one which received way more attention


Ha, so you just proved why we need to focus on the mexican border. Canada has a thriving economy that is better than ours. Nobody wants to leave Canada. Everyone wants to leave mexico.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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If it's about security then you should be concerned about the canadian border which is bigger and more open.
Why should we be concerned about our northern border with Canada?

Is there a massive illegal alien invasion going on from that border like whats happening on our southern border with Mexico?

Back to the OP, I try as best I can to assist my local and state politicians who support the closing of our borders and the deportation of all illegal aliens...
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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Why should we be concerned about our northern border with Canada?

Is there a massive illegal alien invasion going on from that border like whats happening on our southern border with Mexico?

Back to the OP, I try as best I can to assist my local and state politicians who support the closing of our borders and the deportation of all illegal aliens...
If your concern is SECURITY then it doesn't matter if the "invasion" is "massive" or not. The terrorists are sneaking millions in, just a handful, right?

The technique of "terrorists might do X, let's implement counter technique Y" is a huge moneyhole because the terrorists aren't dumb, they will just adjust. If they were in fact planning on sneaking in over the mexican border, and this wall gets built (and actually works, which is lol doubtful), then all they have to do is sneak over the canadian border. The fact that you can't anticipate this tells me that you haven't really thought about it for more than 10 seconds, which is almost certainly due to the fact that security is not your actual reason for wanting the wall. You want it for another reason, but you think yelling TERRORISTS! SECURITY! will sound better than whatever your real reason is.
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