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Old 09-19-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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How about driving an UNregistered or Illegally registered vehicle?

How about driving an UNsafe vehicle . . . inoperative lights or other defective or missing equipment for example?

How about driving a vehicle late at night with music (using that term loosely) loud enough to WAKE THE DEAD?

Then, after the stop has been made . . . how about NO ID or NO VALID LICENSE or NO INSURANCE?

and the list reflecting BLATANT DISRESPECT AND ARROGANCE goes on and on and on . . .
Those are legit reasons for an officer pulling someone over. And not only brown or black people do what you listed. Solely being brown or black is not a legit reason to pull someone over...period!
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Those are legit reasons for an officer pulling someone over. And not only brown or black people do what you listed. Solely being brown or black is not a legit reason to pull someone over...period!
That's my primary point, Ibarrio

However, you are implying, or outright stating, that Sheriff Joe is profiling because his Deputies are stopping certain individuals WITHOUT knowing why they were being stopped nor if only members of a certain color are being stopped. I personally know a white middle aged man who was stopped in Maricopa County for a single vehicle registration issue which he totally deserved.

Bottom line . . . YOU are the profiler in this case!
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, yes and YES!!!
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Joe Arpaio will be Sherriff for life--simply because HE GOES OUT THERE AND DOES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE! PERIOD!
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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He is a disgusting thing and shouldn't be in charge of any thing.

He likes to brag how he give's the inmates old sandwich "meat" and dogs eat better than they do.
He is a generous man. Far more so than I would be. The dogs get the air conditioned cells so he is ok in my book. Perhaps if we did not make prison so comfy, there would be fewer criminals?
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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He is a generous man. Far more so than I would be. The dogs get the air conditioned cells so he is ok in my book. Perhaps if we did not make prison so comfy, there would be fewer criminals?
Doubt it...Social issues such as crime are not solved by putting people in a hot living conditions such as tent city. The death penalty isn't even a deterrent so what makes you think that tent city is?

I would like it if neither the dogs or inmates get cold air (unless necessary). What a waste of money...
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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That's my primary point, Ibarrio

However, you are implying, or outright stating, that Sheriff Joe is profiling because his Deputies are stopping certain individuals WITHOUT knowing why they were being stopped nor if only members of a certain color are being stopped. I personally know a white middle aged man who was stopped in Maricopa County for a single vehicle registration issue which he totally deserved.

Bottom line . . . YOU are the profiler in this case!
I don't know and I certainly do not trust Joe. I guess we will know when the lawsuits are all said and done...
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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Doubt it...Social issues such as crime are not solved by putting people in a hot living conditions such as tent city. The death penalty isn't even a deterrent so what makes you think that tent city is?

I would like it if neither the dogs or inmates get cold air (unless necessary). What a waste of money...
It deters one person.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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I don't know and I certainly do not trust Joe. I guess we will know when the lawsuits are all said and done...
Unfortunately, due to the abundance of Sleazy Ambulance Chasers . . . "frivolous" empty lawsuits abound!
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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It deters one person.
It does? How?

Retribution...yes...

Deterrent...ask the victim if it was a deterrent...
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