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Old 09-21-2008, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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You know, if they are taking from the American taxpayer, which also includes myself. The hospitals and doctors have been screwing the patients (taxpayers) for years, I know because I pay my bills for their services.
The Doc's have been screwing us, so it's fair that the Illegals screw them along with us?
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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You know, if they are taking from the American taxpayer, which also includes myself. The hospitals and doctors have been screwing the patients (taxpayers) for years, I know because I pay my bills for their services.

Good Lord. Have you ever heard of the term 'cost shifting'? It works like this: 25 illegals show up for a chest X-ray t and none of them pay. Let's say the actual cost of the chest X-ray is $50. The technician who takes the film needs to be paid, there is the cost of operating the X-ray machine, it is going to cost to have the film developed, the radiologist who reads the X-ray needs to be paid for his services, the orderly who transported the patient to and from the radiology suite needs to be compensated and the clerk who files the film has to be paid. If the 25 illegals simply walk away from the bill, the hospital is out $1250. They begin to look for some way to recoup at least a portion of the $1250. What happens is that a patient with insurance is charged more for the X-ray. You are not paying for only the X-ray you had, you are also helping to cover the costs of the illegal's chest X-rays. That's not fair, you say? YOU are one of the biggest supporters of illegal aliens in this forum!

An uninsured American patient may have Medicaid coverage or will at least pay part of the bills. Illegal aliens are well known for walking off and leaving the hospital holding the bag.

Darlin', you have no business complaining about the costs of your health care while you are actively supporting illegal aliens who are doing nothing but sucking the US healthcare system dry. You want you healthcare bills to go down? So do I. Let's work together to get the illegal aliens back to Mexico and the other countries that they are citizens of so their own governments can pay for their healthcare. Not the US.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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No that is wrong but America has so much wealth and it belongs to everyone so its different and not wrong to share .
Okay, I see.

You espouse the expanded version of the incipiently moronic version of Socialism.

It all makes sense now.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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Okay, I see.

You espouse the expanded version of the incipiently moronic version of Socialism.

It all makes sense now.
Do you suppose this is another proud graduate of the LAUSD?
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Do you suppose this is another proud graduate of the LAUSD?
No, I thinks she's likely another proud graduate of Academia Semillas del Pueblo. She probably majored in dance with Marcos Aguilar as her Chicken Dance instructor.
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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No, I thinks she's likely another proud graduate of Academia Semillas del Pueblo. She probably majored in dance with Marcos Aguilar as her Chicken Dance instructor.
Oh boy am I hoping I can rep you!

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Old 09-21-2008, 02:05 PM
 
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Where on this topic has anything been said that's "Hate Directed".? NOWHERE! That's just your way of trying to change the subject and point the blame on us.
I;m trying to understand you........first you say you don't blame the Illegals for for breaking the law....now you say you do...yet you still sympathize them.
You don't see any hate directed towards the illegals on this board???
The only part I blame them for is other peoples ID, if they are just crossing here to work without someone else's ID,no I don't blame them for that.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You don't see any hate directed towards the illegals on this board???
The only part I blame them for is other peoples ID, if they are just crossing here to work without someone else's ID,no I don't blame them for that.
And you don't care that EVERY job they take puts an American citizen or LEGAL immigrant out of a job? This is why there are people here that have labeled you as PRO-illegal, you put THEIR well-being above those with the legal RIGHT to be here.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:24 PM
 
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And you don't care that EVERY job they take puts an American citizen or LEGAL immigrant out of a job? This is why there are people here that have labeled you as PRO-illegal, you put THEIR well-being above those with the legal RIGHT to be here.

I think some of the disconnect here, (as I understand it), is that people convince themselves that illegals don't actually "take" anyone's job...they seem to rationalize to themselves, ..."The illegals down the street didn't 'take' the jobs away from the Americans who worked there last month...the employer cut the wages by 35%, and the Americans either QUIT or were 'let go temporarily'...and the following Monday, the employer looked for more 'reasonable' employees, and the illegals were glad to help out"..if a person can think like this, they can avoid any guilt associated with illegals 'taking' jobs. If you have a lot of imagination, it makes sense...I guess...
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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I think some of the disconnect here, (as I understand it), is that people convince themselves that illegals don't actually "take" anyone's job...they seem to rationalize to themselves, ..."The illegals down the street didn't 'take' the jobs away from the Americans who worked there last month...the employer cut the wages by 35%, and the Americans either QUIT or were 'let go temporarily'...and the following Monday, the employer looked for more 'reasonable' employees, and the illegals were glad to help out"..if a person can think like this, they can avoid any guilt associated with illegals 'taking' jobs. If you have a lot of imagination, it makes sense...I guess...
Good point, Macmeal.

Another point to consider . . . your referenced employer probably never reduced the price of his goods or services in spite of the big buck savings on labor, did he?
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