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Old 09-21-2008, 03:58 PM
 
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HENDERSONVILLE – Sheriff Rick Davis can’t forget a shooting two years ago in which a man killed his estranged wife and injured their child.

Six years before the fatal shooting, the suspect, Joel Zelaya Rivera, was charged with assaulting a family member in Texas, Davis said. Two years after that, Rivera, who was in the country illegally, was charged with assaulting a female in Henderson County.


A program now in place in Henderson County might have prevented the murder.

“Had 287(g) been in place either in Texas or here on the first arrest, I feel very confident that homicide would not have occurred,” Davis said. The 287(g) program — named after the section of its enabling legislation — allows local law enforcement officers, trained by the federal government, to begin the process of deporting undocumented immigrants who commit crimes.

The Henderson County Sheriff’s Office, one of seven counties statewide enrolled in 287(g), implemented the program July 1. Last year’s state budget provided the N.C. Sheriff’s Association a one-time grant of $750,000 for the program. The state awarded another $600,000 this year.

The undocumented immigrants are deported after serving their sentences, reducing the chance a repeat offender could end up back in a local jail.

Buncombe County is the site of another program intended to help law enforcement more aggressively track undocumented immigrants.


Deportation program a weapon against lawbreakers in the US illegally | CITIZEN-TIMES.com | Asheville Citizen-Times
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:48 PM
 
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As of the beginning of September, 83 people had been arrested in Henderson County and were in the various stages of deportation through 287(g), Davis said. Seventy-six of them are from Mexico, three from Guatemala and one apiece from Honduras, El Salvador, Colombia and Indonesia, Davis said.

Deputies arrested one man identified as an MS-13 gang member from El Salvador, Davis said. As of late last week, 101 individuals were identified for deportation.

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Edna Campos, who advocates for the Hispanic community in Western North Carolina, said she is worried programs like 287(g) and CAP are diverting resources needed to fight hardened criminals.

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:12 PM
 
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Gangs are horrible but most undocumented workers are law abiding good people.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:18 PM
 
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Gangs are horrible but most undocumented workers are law abiding good people.
If they are in the US illegally, they are not 'law abiding'.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Gangs are horrible but most undocumented workers are law abiding good people.
Turn your record over and play another tune. No illegal is law abiding. If they were they would have entered legally. They are all 100% of them criminals.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If they are in the US illegally, they are not 'law abiding'.
You mean the:

1. Entering Illegally
2. Forged doc to obtain work
3. Driving without a DL
4. Driving without insurance
5. Does this chick get it yet? This is not the BURGER KING ala carte approach to laws. They are all laws, not what you want to be law.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Gangs are horrible but most undocumented workers are law abiding good people.
If here illegally in the USA: you would be facing jail time.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:02 PM
 
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You mean the:

1. Entering Illegally
2. Forged doc to obtain work
3. Driving without a DL
4. Driving without insurance
5. Does this chick get it yet? This is not the BURGER KING ala carte approach to laws. They are all laws, not what you want to be law.

I agree with all but not #1 that is NOT a crime. One country for one people .

#1 is only a crime in the minds of anti undocumented workers minds but not as far as UN thinks. I will never consider #1 a crime .
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I agree with all but not #1 that is NOT a crime. One country for one people .

#1 is only a crime in the minds of anti undocumented workers minds but not as far as UN thinks. I will never consider #1 a crime .
Only because you would then be forced to admit that you are a CRIMINAL!
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
 
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I agree with all but not #1 that is NOT a crime. One country for one people .

#1 is only a crime in the minds of anti undocumented workers minds but not as far as UN thinks. I will never consider #1 a crime .

Well, you see, we don't want to be 'one country' with Mexico. Neither does Canada. As a matter of fact, no country in their right mind would want to be one with Mexico. Mexico has nothing to offer anyone but millions and millions and millions of illiterate and impoverished people who are never going to be anything but a burden in a First World country.
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