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Old 09-22-2008, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Maybe we should try this. I mean, our government seems more than willing to spend money we don't have bailing out the rich companies and the idiot people who made loans they know they could not afford or ever pay. Anything to get rid of the damn illegals and while they are at it, they can pay to get rid of the legal immigrants who refuse to assimilate too like so many of the Muslims.

Spain will pay jobless migrants to return home | Mail Online

Spain will pay jobless immigrants to go home under new plans revealed.

The measure was approved at a Cabinet meeting after a largely symbolic fast-track passage through Parliament.

The plan, which will come into force in around a month, targets tens of thousands of non-EU citizens who have been laid off in Spain and are entitled to unemployment benefits.

Under the scheme a jobless worker would receive a payment based on how long they have been working and how much they have been contributed into the social security system.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:46 AM
 
Location: southern california
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a very good use of money it has been tried here in SF and worked.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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a very good use of money it has been tried here in SF and worked.
Better use of the money than bailing out the rich companies and stipid people who made loans they knew they could not pay.
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:32 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Maybe we should try this. I mean, our government seems more than willing to spend money we don't have bailing out the rich companies and the idiot people who made loans they know they could not afford or ever pay. Anything to get rid of the damn illegals and while they are at it, they can pay to get rid of the legal immigrants who refuse to assimilate too like so many of the Muslims.

Spain will pay jobless migrants to return home | Mail Online

Spain will pay jobless immigrants to go home under new plans revealed.

The measure was approved at a Cabinet meeting after a largely symbolic fast-track passage through Parliament.

The plan, which will come into force in around a month, targets tens of thousands of non-EU citizens who have been laid off in Spain and are entitled to unemployment benefits.

Under the scheme a jobless worker would receive a payment based on how long they have been working and how much they have been contributed into the social security system.
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Spain has a large illegal Muslim , Central America population they plan to sweep raids and kick them out by force or incarcerate them if they refuse to say where they are from.

This is their first step . Pay them fairly and deport them but do it with a friendship hand rather than a punch across the face .
They plan to do this for few months than a big crack down is coming which will not pay anyone just deport them and it will be a punch across the face.

Argentina is going to soon do same.
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:41 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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a very good use of money it has been tried here in SF and worked.

I couldn't fathom it working in San Fran or any part of United States as would think many would get the money and leave only to simply return .

Spains method is going to be very harsh treatment of illegals after this grace period is over so they will not be coming back .

Their PM is hated in hispanic Central American radio he said he couldn't care less and Spain would not be carved out into small countries .
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I couldn't fathom it working in San Fran or any part of United States as would think many would get the money and leave only to simply return .

Spains method is going to be very harsh treatment of illegals after this grace period is over so they will not be coming back .

Their PM is hated in hispanic Central American radio he said he couldn't care less and Spain would not be carved out into small countries .
That does not surprise me at all..............many of not most Spaniards look down with contempt on 'Hispanics' as a group----------even Criollos (sp) from Argentina. Yet; Italians and Romanians (from Europe) seem to fit quite nicely into Spanish culture. Go figure.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:54 AM
 
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Spain has a large illegal Muslim , Central America population they plan to sweep raids and kick them out by force or incarcerate them if they refuse to say where they are from.

This is their first step . Pay them fairly and deport them but do it with a friendship hand rather than a punch across the face .
They plan to do this for few months than a big crack down is coming which will not pay anyone just deport them and it will be a punch across the face.

Argentina is going to soon do same.
South Americans angry as EU gets tough on illegals

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LIMA, Peru — For years, South Americans have flocked to European embassies for visas that would let them migrate and escape their poverty.

But a few days ago, scores of Peruvians mobbed the European Union's office in Lima for another reason: to protest an EU plan to crack down on illegal immigrants.
Exporting poor citizens to combat poverty is the end result of a inept and corrupt government.

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José Miguel Insulza, secretary-general of the Organization of American States, said Europe's directive felt like a slap, given a lengthy shared history since Spanish conquistadors arrived in the continent five centuries ago.
"I was not denying that they have a right to control their borders," Insulza said in an interview. "But the fact that Europeans have come by the millions to Latin America without any kind of obstacles plays a role in creating the irritation we see."
The Europeans that immigrate to Latin America do so legally, and they are also educated and have money. The same can't be said for Latin Americans migrating to Europe.

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While the approaches in Europe have been divided, the directive has resulted in nearly universal condemnation in South America.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez threatened to cut off oil exports and wondered if Europe wanted to "build a wall in the Atlantic Ocean."
Hugo Chavez suffers from indigenous ethnic insecurity complex. So now he threatens Europe with extortion should they enforce immigration laws.

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In Peru, the emotions have been raw. On a Lima radio show last week, the hosts interviewed a Peruvian man working illegally in Paris who had been detained once. The man described feelings of fear and paranoia among Peruvians there and their relatives back home.
In La Paz, the Bolivian capital, economic-development experts worried that a crackdown would cause a drastic drop in remittances, the money that immigrants send home.
Sound familar. Break immigration laws, then accuse the host nation of inflicting fear and paranoia. How can someone be considered a economic development expert if they depend on remittances from other countries.
South Americans angry as EU gets tough on illegals | www.azstarnet.com ® (http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/247024.php - broken link)
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:06 AM
 
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South And Central American governments have been the real 'welfare queens' of the 20th century. They export their poor, keep their wealth for the elite and the US as well as Europe has allowed them to do so --- dare I say enabled them?
It is past time to stop this. We either need to put a moratorium on all immigration until this mess is sorted out, or the US and the EU need to start imposing tariffs on all legal and illegal immigrants coming from Central and South America. Why not? Their own governments see them and treat them as a bad debt that they need to pawn on someone else. Maybe this is not the feel good way to approach this.....but I do believe that this will be the only way to end the wholesale corruption that is Central and South American politics.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:35 AM
 
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The readers comments after the article are interesting. Here's a good one:

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From the southern tip of Chile, to the border with the U.S. these people have either created, or let their governments create, impoverished nations out of themselves, and when they've trashed their own countries and economies, they pack up and run somewhere else seeking refuge.

Sort of like a fraternity that crashes parties every weekend, eats all the food, drinks all the beer, destroys the house and then leaves. Every semester they have to beg the dean to extend their charter. Pretty soon they run out of reasons why they should be allowed to stay. The cost of having them around is more than any benefit they can provide.
ROFL!
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:42 AM
 
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LABOR DUMPING

The flood of foreign labor pouring into the United States, the European Union and other hospitable environs has brought political strains. But there is little chance of stemming migrant inflows, as long as the countries supplying immigrants embrace policies that effectively mandate labor dumping, says Steve H. Hanke, a professor of applied economics at the Johns Hopkins University and a senior fellow at the Cato Institute.
Mexico is the world's largest labor dumper and the source of much of the contentious U.S. immigration reform debate. The source of the problem is Mexico's statist economy, which can't produce enough jobs. Rather than modernize the economy, Mexico's politicians sweep the country's surplus labor force into the United States:
  • Mexico's 47 consulates in the United States, more than any other country has, facilitate the sweeping by issuing passports and offering assistance when Mexican immigrants run into trouble.
  • Thus 30 percent of Mexico's labor force is working in the United States, and in 2006 they sent home $23 billion -- 12 percent of Mexico's exports.
LABOR DUMPING | National Center for Policy Analysis
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