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Old 03-12-2008, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I sincerely hope they all go away, better yet vaporize, but am realistic as to our governments ineptitude and the lack of law enforcement relative to illegals..I do not want the illegal children educated in public schools. I would love for them to pick produce or do menial work their entire lifes as a punishment for their parents illegality..( I am married to a brazilian and I can tell you that word does trickle back, if what is precieved does not come to fruition. If they cant educate the kids or work.. they do and will go home) Just as I am being punished for the baby boomers (my fathers generation) complete lack of multigeneration thinking and planning and contamination of our culture...We all know this generation has laid the groundwork for this to be a third world nation..I dont need to educate them to take over and write policy that panders to their limited (but growing) constiuancy..The public education system does nothing but cater to "individualism and liberal "community" mindset...They are encouraged NOT to assimliate and to retain and stregthen cutural folkways and mores..Keep them out of public schools. We cant afford the education and ultimate uprising of million of illegals.
That I draw the line at---------anti illegal I may be, I flat refuse to punish the US born children of illegal immigrants.

However: I have zero heartburn denying birthright citizenship to kids born in the USA after a cutoff date, of say, July 1st 2008..........grandfather those born June 31st and prior in as citizens. NOTE: I am assuming that both parents are illegal for said law to apply.
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:26 AM
 
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That I draw the line at---------anti illegal I may be, I flat refuse to punish the US born children of illegal immigrants.

However: I have zero heartburn denying birthright citizenship to kids born in the USA after a cutoff date, of say, July 1st 2008..........grandfather those born June 31st and prior in as citizens. NOTE: I am assuming that both parents are illegal for said law to apply.
Brilliant idea, however, it ain't gonna happen, not now, not ever.
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:43 AM
 
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Brilliant idea, however, it ain't gonna happen, not now, not ever.
It will, we just don't know when. Someone has to make a case to have the 14th amendment interpreted correctly by the SC.

Never say never.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Brilliant idea, however, it ain't gonna happen, not now, not ever.
Watch the economy--------that may very well be the 'tipping point' concerning cancelling birthright citizenship and many other questionable---------at best, perks for illegal immigrants.

We are heading into a whopper of a recession I am afraid
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Watch the economy--------that may very well be the 'tipping point' concerning cancelling birthright citizenship and many other questionable---------at best, perks for illegal immigrants.

We are heading into a whopper of a recession I am afraid
IMHO, it will make 1929 look like a walk in the park...
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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IMHO, it will make 1929 look like a walk in the park...
LOL, it won't get that bad.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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IMHO, it will make 1929 look like a walk in the park...
I am thinking in terms of ca. 1939 to be honest; not nearly as severe as 1929 but bad enough.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What is happening in some districts is parents, who are illegal immigrants, are unable to verify legal residency status - which determines the school the child will attend.

There are also more and more cases of the parents being detained for being illegals and then, when they are deported, either the child stays with someone else, or leaves with the parents. This last situation is more common.

In the Mesa Unified School District (arizona), one school is going to close due to reduction in student population.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:46 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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LOL, it won't get that bad.
Are you related to Helicopter Bernanke by any chance?

That's the second time today someone has made an adamant statement about the future as if they had Nostradamus in their closet at home.

We have only just begun at the ride down in our economy - there is no way to know how far down, or how bumpy the ride. This subject very well may need to be revisited by our lawmakers and enforcers, because if our middle class people start going hungry, there may be hell to pay - no funds left to pay for people's education that have no business being here in the first place.
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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LOL, it won't get that bad.
That, my young friend, is an opinion that is NOT shared by a large number of economists.

The devaluation of the dollar is the single largest threat to our economic security, and it's proceeding at a pace that should boggle the mind. Two short years ago the Euro was valued at $1.20. (Keep in mind that it was ORIGINALLY less than $1) Today 1 Euro is equivalent to $1.53, that's a 20% decline in value for our currency. Silver has increased to over $20 an ounce while gold is damned near $1,000. A barrel of oil is now $110, almost 4 times it's price just 5 years ago.

Bachman-Turner Overdrive had a hit song that I'll quote the title of here...

You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet
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